Yes this right here is what people are missing ^Probably because this is a cavalry faction.. but i mean it still kinda sucks to be low armour and slow
The thing is they are not a powerhouse in anything right now.Yes this right here is what people are missing ^
If every faction has the same excact troops just reskinned, why even have factions?? Khuzait aren't supposed to be a melee powerhouse. They're a horse faction whose infantry should really be mediocre at best, but cavalry really good. It would be dumb if Khuzaits had some shock infantry troop and heavy infantry. They don't need it. They have heavy cavalry with an op as f*ck twohander and their staple, the horse archers. The inf is there to support their cav.
Ps. They also have a heavy armored archer with a glaive. Yeah.
Khuzait has a cavalry focus yes, but they possess the weakest cavalry besides Battania(light Battania cav is way better then light Khuzait though), and have a heavy foot Archer with a 2h weapon.. before Bannerlord i didn't know Mongolians were known for heavily armored foot archers. My point is that from a lore perspective Khuzait makes no sense in their class design anyway, so buffing their infantry wouldn't be game breaking.This isn't aimed specifically at this class in particular as I wouldn't have a clue how to properly balance the faction, but just based on the fact it's called 'Spear Infantry' and obviously that's meant to be it's role. I think spear infantry should be some of the fastest in the game, as it's the only time that spears become in the slightest bit viable. You're required to use footwork to keep yourself at a distance where your attacks don't glance, and the overall low damage of the spear is a fair trade-off for that. I have more success using the pike with shock infantry in a 1v1 fight than using a spear, or spear and shield combo on any other class.
Obviously this could go against the Khuzait's cavalry focus, but I think it's something for the dev's to consider if they ever think of adding new classes. I'd make a seperate thread but to be honest there's hardly anyone that even attempts to use the spear for anti-infantry purposes, and I only do so for the fun of it and hoping that one day, if they do buff the spear (which they don't seem keen on) I'll be some sort of spear god.
Other than that, I like this class just because they look like some bad mother fu ckers. But gameplay wise they're bad.
Dude Khuzait heavy cav under-performs in ANYTHING. Lowest armour(with glaive), shortest lance, no long spear as alternative, no good horse without giving your shield away. Also glaive is a very bad team-play weapon(for skirmish) because it has such a high team damage potential. It's just a selfish weapon that performs better when 1v1, just like the menav cav.Yes this right here is what people are missing ^
If every faction has the same excact troops just reskinned, why even have factions?? Khuzait aren't supposed to be a melee powerhouse. They're a horse faction whose infantry should really be mediocre at best, but cavalry really good. It would be dumb if Khuzaits had some shock infantry troop and heavy infantry. They don't need it. They have heavy cavalry with an op as f*ck twohander and their staple, the horse archers. The inf is there to support their cav.
Ps. They also have a heavy armored archer with a glaive. Yeah.
Might be a difficult thing to balance, I think. Spear Infantry's probably the only medium infantry in the game, and unless there's a massive skill discrepancy between two teams, Khuzait players can generally do a fair chunk of damage with the heavy mace or throwing spear + basic sword.I think spear inf needs a glaive perk.
I agree, Empire has Menavlions, Vlandia has Voulge/Bilhook.I think spear inf needs a glaive perk.
I agree, Empire has Menavlions, Vlandia has Voulge/Bilhook.
Archers should not have access to polearms and twohanders at all. That's one of the core issues I have with multiplayer balance at the moment.I think the problem is no one would play Spear Inf with Glaive when Khan's Guard exists. Khans can 1v1 any shock unit without firing a shot and win and will murder most Light Infantry as well. (Club Clans can kind of stand a chance if you get them in a tight spot where they can't swing).
I don't think a Khuzait Shock Infantry would have a job to do that Khan's Guard isn't already better at.
Khan's Guard is definitely the worst offender and I don't think anyone will argue it couldn't use a nerf. Being able to take Glaive and Reinforcement perks in Captain is just a war-crime.Archers should not have access to polearms and twohanders at all. That's one of the core issues I have with multiplayer balance at the moment.
Once Khans Guard doesn't have glaive anymore, giving it to Spear Infantry in exchange for its shield seems like an okay option.