Spear and shield hardest weapon combo?

[kaospeppers]

It really is, poke 1 damage poke 1 damage etc etc.

Anyone know how to really use a shiled and spear? i mean it was the most common weapon for the majority of human history.

 

[krisvk]

You need to get a momentum, or attack from behind, it doesn't damage much when you and the enemy are close, or you could also use the spear alone as that makes it easier in crowded combat, just practice 

 

[aragontherin]

i say it is impossible

 

[krisvk]

using a spear and shield is quite easy once you get a hang on it, but most of the time it's probably easier to use the spear as a club.

 

[Dan11311]

It's not impossible. I tend to use my spear after throwing my axes, javelins, or throwing spears. Unless, of course, the enemy gets too close. You know what's missing from this mod? The ability to give the order to your troops to only use polearms. Especially when in a tight square or shieldwall formation.

 

[Lord Michlo]

I too have given up trying to use spears as that isn't the sort of poking I enjoy.

Tis quite irksome when one is on foot in a tournament and only wielding a spear.  They always get so close yet still manage to poke with their speak whilst I'm trying to get far enough back to hit them.  Ugh.  Not fun.

I usually prefer a sword anyway.

 

[funk]

try to step forwards just before you attack this will give you a good 50% plus speed.
still swords and axes rule in this mod.

 

[aragontherin]

swords and axes rule in every mod

 

[Drunkard]

Using a spear and shield requires a bit of skill at Native warband. Since the spear needs to fully complete it's attack animation, the best (and only way to really do it) is to begin your attack off to the side of your enemy, then twiiiist right on over and hit em with the stab as it ends.

 

[killer110]

Another way to do it is to predict the AI's movements and attack accordingly.

For example: Moving backwards and the AI follows you, you suddenly stop so it backs up. That's your window. Attack then while sidestepping if he's launched an attack.

I get 10-30 damage each hit if I aim correctly and if he doesn't chamber block me.

 

[DerHerbst]

I haven't played Brytenwalda since the summer, been busy in a middle-ages phase playing 1257AD.  Now I'm back in the Dark Ages!!! 

The spear is actually a useful weapon in 1257AD.  Basically spears can be made into worthwhile weapons by increasing their damage and increasing their speed.  I'd say use the item editor to add ~8 points to each spear and increase their speeds by another 5-7 points.

It is a shame that the Warband engine does such a poor job of modeling spear combat.  It's actually a very quick, mail-ripping, dynamic weapon that should be an effective anti-infantry weapon.  I think the only thing you can do is mess around with damage/speed and find a happy balance.

 

[AJStoner]

Is there a pluggable script that will allow combatants to choose their weapon sets before each round in a tournament or arena run?  I know it is done in other mods and would be cool to have here as well.  My heart sinks a little every time I set out onto the arena grounds and they hand me the spear set.

 

[Vesku]

The idea is to hit with the tip, not with the shaft that does the 1 pt damage. For a tournament just drop the shield and swing your spear instead of thrusting.

 

[AJStoner]

Hits are calculated by the game’s collision mechanics so the animations used are a big part of it as these determine the arc that the attack follows.  Spears are much easier to use in Floris, for example, because of the new attack animations used there.

 

[joko380]

Using a spear and shield requires a bit of skill at Native warband. Since the spear needs to fully complete it's attack animation, the best (and only way to really do it) is to begin your attack off to the side of your enemy, then twiiiist right on over and hit em with the stab as it ends.

- This, that way even when you are closed up you can still get full penetration of their armours since you have momentum