Spain's impact on the American Revolution

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ash12181987

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I am doing this primarily because of a personal observation, when it comes to History. This is all personal research, so you need not answer the poll, but it would be appreciated. And not to mention, it is a fun fact to know. If you have heard something different than what I present below, please do not hesistate to correct me, I am not an expert in Southern Indian Tribes, thus I may be off on some points. Further, what I have wrote is the opinion of another, and by that I mean, for the most part it has been taken directly from the book I read it from, I tried to keep personal opinions surpressed. If you are looking for the citation: Splendid Land, Splendid People: The Chickasaw Indians to Removal; James Atkinson. University of Alabama Press, Tuscaloosa AL. 2004.

I am currently in a class that addresses the history and Culture of the Native American tribes in and around the Southeastern portion of the United States. At this time we are reading about the Chickasaw Nation, the British aligned group that settled originally in the Tombigbee/upper mississippi portion of the West Florida settlement, and later in the Carolina colony. The period I am speaking of, specifically is the time from about 1770-1790. The previously French settlement of New Orleans was given to the Spanish, after the 7 years [French-Indian] war of the 1770s. Once in the hands of the Spanish, the spaniards sat on their land, interacting some with the surrounding tribes. All of this is rather unimportant, at least until the beginning of the revolutionary war. Now:

According to what I read, the Spanish declared war on the British during the time at which the British Colonists were fighting the American Revolution. They were not diametrically opposed to the Americans, but there was no indication they fought directly with/for the Americans. That being said, their reasoning for beginning the war with the British was at best an excuse, and at worst a sham. Claims of the Spanish, were that the Brits were attempting coerce the Indian tribes into attacking the Spanish colony of New Orleans, when up until that point there was evidence of little but Spanish attempts to coerce the Choctaw, Alibama, and others to attack British allied tribes, and the British themselves. The Spanish captured a number of British towns, including Pensacola, and sank about 8 warships of British Origin. This effectively paralyzed British trade with the Indian tribes, and heavily hampered their southern colonys, ability to make war with the northern, revolting colonys.

I will put that out, and await for the results of the poll before I continue with any kind of analysis or speculation on my part. Corrections and other such points are welcome.
 
Spain and the Netherlands both used the revolution as a pretext to declare war. Spain wanted to restore the glory days of it's Carribean empire, while the Netherlands sought to expand their holdings in India. France was the only major power to get directly involved in the revolution.
The South wasn't exactly loyal to Britain in the first place - the majority of the equipment used by revolutionaries was being supplied from Virginia. As far as the Southern campaign went it wasn't Spanish or Indian influence which hampered loyalist assistance, but the activities of American Partisans. They adopted some pretty effective terror tactics to suppress loyalist sentiment, largely by raiding loyalist strongholds and the witch hunts of the "safety committees". Not only did this serve to drive loyalist support underground, but many loyalist militias were hit by mass desertions as men returned to defend their communities where the British army could not.
 
The Spanish were motivated like the French were - "Let's screw over them damn Brits and take some colonies for ourselves". However, the Spanish were ultimately more cautious than the French, and for their caution were rewarded by getting screwed over.
 
Loyalists did find a great deal of support, at least early on within the Indian tribes though. Even after the war, John Colbert (Or was it James? there were so many Colberts) used the Indian tribes as hideouts as he waged a guerrilla war against the Americans.
 
the spaniards also wanted to get Gibraltar back, but they never succeeded. I believe it was actually what was holding up the peace treaty at the end of the revolution and why the colonies signed a treaty behind spains back.
 
Well.. I'd say Lemon juice won the American Revolution. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

And yes, I know that Lemon juice was not the only thing that made the American Rebels win, but it sure helped. So, in what way?

Sorry to stray a bit of topic here.
 
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