SP Oriental Song-Jin Wars

[Shik]

Setting: After years of division and turmoil following the collapse of the great Tang dynasty, the Song dynasty manages to reunite China in the year 960. However, the Chinese are unable to recover sixteen prefectures south of the great wall from the Khitan Liao dynasty. Years pass until the Song finally sees an opportunity to strike; the Song sign an agreement with rebellious Jurchens in the Northeast to takedown the Liao; in return, the Song are to receive the sixteen prefectures of the north. However, things turn to the worse as the Chinese falter in their campaigns against the Liao, while the Jurchens single-handedly destroy the Liao and establish the Jin dynasty. Sensing the weakness of the Song, the Jin turn on the Chinese and capture the capital Kaifeng in 1127, forcing the Song court south of the Yangtze river. Rebellions are sprouting all over Southern China as the Southern Song struggle to keep their empire intact from their new capital at the city of Lin'an. (Hangzhou)

The plan for this mod is to allow the player to choose a variety of paths - as a merchant, a peasant, a mongol tribesman, a bureaucrat, or a soldier in either the Jin or Song army - each path will have distinct available options, but the game will nonetheless remain open-ended.

WIP Map:


Factions:
Song Dynasty
Jin Dynasty

 

[Elenmmare]

Sounds good.

I might have to edit in some Crusaders just for some variety though...


Hell, I'd make a mini-mod pitching the Ming Dynasty against demons once this is done if you give me permission 

 

[Feerspoir]

What about Tibet as a faction? Would make more sense than Japan, with all the Mongolian, Han and Tibetan political, cultural and military relations and interrelations of that time.

 

[Shik]

What about Tibet as a faction? Would make more sense than Japan, with all the Mongolian, Han and Tibetan political, cultural and military relations and interrelations of that time.

Japan did invade China through Korea during some time in the Ming dynasty. I plan to make a Japanese invasion a scripted event where Japanese armies land in Korea. Japan was driven back though. Perhaps later if I figure out the naval system, I could make warships arrive from Japan.

I'll look into Tibet during the Ming dynasty. However, Tibet will still belong to the Ming faction, but I plan to add regional differences. If this mod sees some success, I'll look into the idea of starting a rebellion for independence in Tibet.

 

[toonknight]

About Korean Invasion.
Japanese should have a Cities in Korea.
Japanese have occupied a Korean Cities like Busan and Tongnae.
Reinforcement will follow afterward.(3 days after game start)

 

[Feerspoir]

Japan did invade China through Korea during some time in the Ming dynasty. I plan to make a Japanese invasion a scripted event where Japanese armies land in Korea. Japan was driven back though. Perhaps later if I figure out the naval system, I could make warships arrive from Japan.

Yes, but that was in the late 16th century, when the Ming dynasty was already on the decline. And Japan was driven back by something you can't (yet, let's hope) put into the game: naval power.

I'll look into Tibet during the Ming dynasty. However, Tibet will still belong to the Ming faction, but I plan to add regional differences. If this mod sees some success, I'll look into the idea of starting a rebellion for independence in Tibet.

Tibet should not belong to the Ming dynasty (both historically and gamewise). That's the whole point, so it serves as a balance in the west, so there's 3 powers contending in the west: Mongolia, Tibet and Han China.

Maybe you could add Tatars and Jurchens/Manchus roaming the NW and NE respectivelly as bandits?

Anyway, good luck on the mod, sounds very interesting .

 

[nelson_mtkwan]

Hi guys, glad to see you are planning this mod. I am a native Chinese and I am very interested about the history of Ming Dynasty. I have lots of cultural, historical and military information about Ming Dynasty and I can access to the local university libraries for futher information and pictures easily. And I have good knowledge in both tradional and simplified Chinese characters. I think I can help out with the research part of the project 

 

[Servitor]

It won't be historical, just historical influenced. Anyway, you might be able to help him non-the-less.

Good luck ya'll!

 

[Artizan]

if tibets are in, then shall be uygurs as well.

 

[Feerspoir]

if tibets are in, then shall be uygurs as well.

No, not really.

 

[Sir Boom Boom]

Hope this mod catches on, potential for great tech/troop tree, can't help in programing or modelling but would love to help in ideas.

 

[RaVeN]

Sounds interesting, how about script the mod so that you will get to play as a Ming commander trying to defend China from all fronts;
-Help Korea from Japan taking over and possibily invade China.
-Defend Silk Road from Tibetans.
-Defend Southern China from Vietnam or keep it occupied.
-Keep Machurians and Mongolians away from the Great Wall.
Or just get to play as a commander from one of the other factions trying to bring down China?

Good luck!

 

[Killerflood]

finally a mod that centers on china

Hallelujah!

 

[nelson_mtkwan]

Sounds interesting, how about script the mod so that you will get to play as a Ming commander trying to defend China from all fronts;
-Help Korea from Japan taking over and possibily invade China.
-Defend Silk Road from Tibetans.
-Defend Southern China from Vietnam or keep it occupied.
-Keep Machurians and Mongolians away from the Great Wall.
Or just get to play as a commander from one of the other factions trying to bring down China?

Good luck!

I think it would be better for the player to choose which faction they fight for. May be you can be a bandit king yourself

Also, if you are a heroic Ming commander, you should crash down the uprising of rebellions and robbers in the western China as well since this became a huge problem for the government in the middle and late Ming dynasty. All this task can be taken as a Royal duty from the Ming Emperor

 

[Elenmmare]

Nice name. Sound's familiar though. 

 

[Odin Doomhammer]

If this mod sees some success, I'll look into the idea of starting a rebellion for independence in Tibet.

In the mod I assume, not in real life!

 

[mishamael]

Good luck! I´d love to see an ancient china mod 

Ming & Qin and Han (and fall of Han/three kingdoms) where all interesting periods 

 

[toonknight]

If this mod's success.
You can make these mods.
Tai Ping Rebellion (Qing)
Opium Wars
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and if you interesting in asian wars in that era.(not in china)
You should make these mod.

Vietnam-Thai Wars (Ngyuen Lords Era)
Thai-Burmese Wars (king Naresuan)

 

[Kievan Mereel]

This could be cool.  I absolutely love the Tripartition Mod, so anything with China is great!

 

[Cirdan]

All of China (plus peripheral countries) on one map just doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Personally I'd just focus on one thing, like Toyotomi Hideyoshi's invasion of Korea (if you want to fight samurai) or on Yongle's invasion of Dai Viet.