Some guidance please.

[callahan9119]

I'm totally lost. I'm trying not to cheat and give myself from cash, but I can't survive the beginning of the game, it seems you don't even get a horse anymore. I get mobbed by half a dozen theows and my stupid spear won't even attack them. Also, does starting race and religion play much of a factor? I made a Pict but unfortunately looking at the guide, I'm the wrong religion (polytheism). Not that I can't start over, as I've spent 99% of my time being dragged around in a sack by bandits.

As a suggestion, I'd make it more evident what the various starting decisions effect. Perhaps a tooltip or separate window if possible, not for min/maxing exactly, but some of it seems fairly arbitrary, so it would be good to know. Maybe a "hey, Picts tend to be christian".

 

[Tiberius]

Join a lord's army at the beggining, that way you'll get decent equipment and money by just fighting.

Once you get a decent level and money, just start getting companions and recruits. Make sure you train them yourself by sparring with them, otherwise they won't gain experience unless they actually fight in a battle (does this make the training skill useless? please answer this devs). Still, don't try to upgrade your units TOO MUCH at the beggining otherwise you'll drain your budget completly.

 

[callahan9119]

So right off the boat I should join a lord? I can't wander about on my own, I can only recruit like 10 peasants and they are quickly killed by the few theows and bandits I run across. I have no idea WTF I should be doing in this mod. Nothing is self explanatory (or explanatory at all) and it's a complete change from the native or other mods.  Leadership only gives an extra 1 point to party size?

 

[Dorrin]

Hire some low tier troops, take on the theows. Avoid the big groups... lots of theows later you have some tier 2-3 troops.. go for bigger leveling fodder.. grab more troops.. keep going.

 

[aodhanofgael]

go to wales and buy silver from villages and sell to the angles. 

 

[Dissaray]

Working for lords is realy  a good deal. You get payed, you get gear, and you get a whole army to protect you, sort of. and all you have to trade for all that is the ability to wander around for a little while, perhaps an hour or two of game play. In that time you will be thrown into a few fights and have to decide some things but realy it is money and equipment for little more than your time.

On the other hand if you are determaned to make it on your own I sugest that you get ready to be led around by bandits for a while. Fact is a lone spear dosen't mean much in the 6th century and not many will be willing to higher on with you until you have wone some fights. Troll the bars for companions and try to find small bands of thieves and miscriants to kill off together. Sell the loot you get off them, or use it for yourself and companions if it is better. As soon as you can recrut more men to your war band. After that if not enuf of them are surviving go to a training area and spar with them; the best means of improving both your soldiers and yourself with no risk of losses. The more renown you have the more men you will beable to recrut into your war band and that means that eventualy you will have to fight an actual enemy and win. From a tactical stand point it should be one you out number, but from a renown stnad point an enemy of equal or grater numbers is better. Try to pick some thing soft, basicly not Franks or Dena raiders and certenly not a lord's army. Hitting bandit camps can be quite profitable as well, though a bit risky at times.

 

[Sobakozoid]

Maybe at first it's better to hire mercenaries in the mead halls? So if you want your independent line of life, then get some money from trading or peasantry work and hire some mid/high tier mercenaries. 

 

[Evil_BG]

Do some tournamenting and bounty hunting. Get some renown and go to villages and talk to the village elder and click the option where u ask him to give u some guys. Recruit about 20 guys for protection and start buying silver from villages in the Wales area and selling them at the London area, there buy some beer and sell them to the wales area ! Thats how I started off got 5K and recruited a strong army. Then I was pretty renowned, back then I had 200 renown and -83 honour and the Brythenwalda Oswald accepted me to be his vassal and now I loot enemy villages.

 

[Hister]

Character creation system I designed isn't implemented in the 1.35 version. Well, only text part is together with alloted proper items but the actual stat values are somewhat arbitrary. That is due to the quick "fix" that  Idibil needed to do 'cos we encountered a hardcoded issue with the way I set it up.

Good suggestion on adding a text in character creation menu what religion certain factions are.

Normally the text itself is a good enough hint on what stats will your character posses at the campaign start but now it's very arbitrary unfortunately.

As a suggestion, I'd make it more evident what the various starting decisions effect. Perhaps a tooltip or separate window if possible, not for min/maxing exactly, but some of it seems fairly arbitrary, so it would be good to know. Maybe a "hey, Picts tend to be christian".

 

[Hengwulf]

What I do first of is start running around looking for some cheap compagnons. In the meadhall you might also find farmers to help against bandits. Even with sucky gear you make a good chance since many battles you outnumber the bandits. That will give you some cash. Also find some early trade.

DON'T make a large party in the beginning, it will slow you down and you need all your speed to outrun enemies. If you get followed find refuge in a town or castle for a night. And save often. After a few ingame days you will be on your way

 

[callahan9119]

Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm stuck in Ireland because I can't afford a boat and all of the places that used to have iron and salt in 1.32 now don't have any at all. Not a single bar of iron nor bag of salt (is this because of 1.143?). There is no money to be made. Can anybody tell me good simple trade routes they are using in this version that don't require boats?

Never mind, have to wait for another version...so this character doesn't matter, nor the time I wasted playing it.

 

[Makememove]

You don´t need to buy a boat to cross the sea. A boat will only make it faster. And safer.


I guess by joining a lords army the other people that posted meant that you should enter a lords army as a freelancer.

 

[Merker]

Join a lord's army at the beggining, that way you'll get decent equipment and money by just fighting.

Once you get a decent level and money, just start getting companions and recruits. Make sure you train them yourself by sparring with them, otherwise they won't gain experience unless they actually fight in a battle (does this make the training skill useless? please answer this devs). Still, don't try to upgrade your units TOO MUCH at the beggining otherwise you'll drain your budget completly.

well I dunno about you, but with 22-23 companions all with at least 2-3 training skill I level my troops very fast, not that I bother to upgrade them since it seems a 70 dude army costs me about 3-4k a week, and most of them are barely first tier upgrades. Besides, seems my elite dudes almost always die in the first line of battle, it's like the enemy targets them specifically or something. Right now I just rely on rescued troops and fight pirates mostly.

You don´t need to buy a boat to cross the sea. A boat will only make it faster. And safer.

I tried multiple times to cross the sea without a boat and I can't, I was able to get to ireland only using the 25k shillings boat.

 

[callahan9119]

I couldn't figure out a way either unless I bought a boat that I can't afford.

 

[saxon80]

Join a lord's army at the beggining, that way you'll get decent equipment and money by just fighting.

Once you get a decent level and money, just start getting companions and recruits. Make sure you train them yourself by sparring with them, otherwise they won't gain experience unless they actually fight in a battle (does this make the training skill useless? please answer this devs). Still, don't try to upgrade your units TOO MUCH at the beggining otherwise you'll drain your budget completly.

well I dunno about you, but with 22-23 companions all with at least 2-3 training skill I level my troops very fast, not that I bother to upgrade them since it seems a 70 dude army costs me about 3-4k a week, and most of them are barely first tier upgrades. Besides, seems my elite dudes almost always die in the first line of battle, it's like the enemy targets them specifically or something. Right now I just rely on rescued troops and fight pirates mostly.

You don´t need to buy a boat to cross the sea. A boat will only make it faster. And safer.

I tried multiple times to cross the sea without a boat and I can't, I was able to get to ireland only using the 25k shillings boat.

hmm...does the training skill stack from multiple companions? i thought only the highest skill counts?

 

[Makememove]

I crossed the Irish sea without having an own boat. Just don´t click on the water, but on the city you want to travel to. Once you are onboard, you can change directions on the water.

 

[Dorrin]

Training skill lets the companion give any lower level unit or hero exp each day.. each companion can do this. More points in trainer let them give more exp per day, i don't know the exact formulas.. but more is better, so long as your troops are not higher level than the companions.

 

[callahan9119]

Yes, it's a party skill that stacks...at least in Native.