So, What would Help to Restore Your Faith in TaleWorlds?

[Grank]

Just release stuff. I don't care much for communication. This project is not my job. I only care about results. Communication without results is just a waste in my eyes.

 

[FireBlazinCandy]

I backed Taleworlds all the way until recently. I haven't even logged a huge amount of time into the game but I'm pretty annoyed. I paid for price for a game, granted it was early access, but I paid for the vision they sold us.

The very least they could do is tell me what they are doing to the game that I paid for and not go silent for weeks on end. A weekly update would be more than sufficient, not bloody mythology faff on Twitter.

Again, I gave them money for a product, it was their decision alone to release it. The product wasn't ready, and a year later it still isn't. If a small loud minority of my clients begged me to release a product early, I'd tell them to "no, it's not ready and I will not tarnish my brand".

If I HAD to release a product early, I would be updating my clients far more regularly than this.

 

[NPC99]

Having a special back channel for you and your modding buddies doesn't justify poor communication with the rest of the fans.

Treating the whole project as a joke doesn't encourage engagement. How good were you at communicating with players of your mods? I was dismal.

 

[stevepine]

Just release stuff. I don't care much for communication. This project is not my job. I only care about results. Communication without results is just a waste in my eyes.

Well I mean.. communication AND results is even better ... and totally possible.

This is what most good companies try to do.

 

[Grank]

Well I mean.. communication AND results is even better ... and totally possible. This is what most good companies try to do.

And it'd be even better if they give me cakes too, but hey. If I gotta pick one I'd pick results. It's personally how I do things too. I don't talk much to my team. I just pump out updates. Talking takes time and effort, which are better put into actual work.

Now, before anyone thinks I'm implying that Talewords' results are good, no. I think they're slow and should be better.

 

[FireBlazinCandy]

And it'd be even better if they give me cakes too, but hey. If I gotta pick one I'd pick results. It's personally how I do things too. I don't talk much to my team. I just pump out updates. Talking takes time and effort, which are better put into actual work.

Now, before anyone thinks I'm implying that Talewords' results are good, no. I think they're slow and should be better.

They do communicate though.

Go on to their Twitter and Facebook and you will see them post about "Historical Wednesday" or whatever it is. They take time to research and make a post for that, they also spend time reposting other people's videos and comments.

It's understandable people want posts about the development of them game they paid for. A small paragraph would do.

 

[Grank]

They do communicate though.

I know, and they check the support forums regularly. That's sufficient for me, so I'm not complaining.

 

[MostBlunted]

I don't believe I've seen any genuinely new suggestions in months, just repeats of those TW has already been barraged with. Rather than reading the same things rewritten, I'd prefer the Devs worked on the game, which happens to be their real job. Why should they pander to a vocal and toxic minority on this forum? We're a distraction.

Fortunately, some Devs still donate their free time after work, engaging with modders on Discord where contacts remain civil.

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?threads/giving-quests-to-your-companions.448413/

 

[FireBlazinCandy]

I know, and they check the support forums regularly. That's sufficient for me, so I'm not complaining.

Understood, but it's obviously not sufficient for others. Checking the forums is great for them, but they still need to relay information back to their consumers, the majority of which don't check the forums.

 

[MavDrac]

People care a lot about this game, or this forum would have died more than a year ago.

 

[Horked]

Havent lost faith.

But "increased honesty and openness with the community - explain some of the difficulties they've had" is something for everyone who is developing something. Being in an honest and open dialog with the group of people your product is aiming for is always a really good idea, it will improve the product no matter how you twist and turn it.

 

[Mad Vader]

Treating the whole project as a joke doesn't encourage engagement. How good were you at communicating with players of your mods? I was dismal.

I was okay on PoP and tried to explain game mechanics so forum veterans would spread the knowledge. TLD was for the most part secret so you couldn't talk except crack jokes at TLD as a vaporware until it was released.
My favorite part was with PoP 3.6, players were already told it would be released in March or April (because I knew how much time you need to finish), and then I announced officially that it would be released on April 1st to mess with the players. It worked! And it was released on April 1st.
My favorite interactions were with veteran players who knew the game well and always had some good suggestion (mostly tweaks for balancing).
So, no, I don't understand why TW devs won't do this.

 

[Duh_TaleWorlds]

Having a special back channel for you and your modding buddies doesn't justify poor communication with the rest of the fans.

The modding discord is not secret though

 

[olriщt]

patches at least every 2 week
fulfill players suggestions
fix "butterfaces"

 

[NPC99]

And it was released on April 1st.

That may be Bannerlord's release date next year.

BTW glad to hear your communication was better than I suspected.

 

[FireBlazinCandy]

The modding discord is not secret though

Responses like this aren't really helping your image atm.

The original poster you are replying to is saying he wants an update to the state of the game and doesn't care much for the modding aspect, which is obvious to gather. Your comment reads like tongue in cheek.

 

[Duh_TaleWorlds]

Responses like this aren't really helping your image atm.

MadVader and me are fellow modders who can engage in a personal manner. Don't take it as an offense to yourself

 

[FireBlazinCandy]

MadVader and me are fellow modders who can engage in a personal manner. Don't take it as an offense to yourself

I'm not well versed in this forum. I see the word 'developer' under your name and I presumed that meant you were a developer of the game, not a modder. Apologies. I don't really understand what you mean by the last sentence? What would I take personal offence to?

 

[Duh_TaleWorlds]

I see the word 'developer' under your name and I presumed that meant you were a developer of the game, not a modder. Apologies.

Modder turned developer.

I don't really understand what you mean by the last sentence? What would I take personal offence to?

I guess the tongue in cheek interaction that you criticized? Not sure. If no offense was taken, great

 

[Mad Vader]

I'm not well versed in this forum. I see the word 'developer' under your name and I presumed that meant you were a developer of the game, not a modder. Apologies. I don't really understand what you mean by the last sentence? What would I take personal offence to?

Don't listen to him, I'm a humble forum peasant oppressed by a developer! Help!