So the only way to win is CHR?...

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r3dt4g

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I just spend the entire day playing, gained level 13
had quiet good equipment (best 1H sword with highest reach)
had an army of 45, 80% are well trained, had 13,000 gold, 2 commanders
but i noticed that it all doesn't matter as the enemy goes with numbers and not with skills
Because every time i wanted to take over a fortress, i was outnumbered
while i had 45 soldiers, they had 100 at the castle + 25 of the lord in the castle.

Even after i brake threw the walls, i cant beat him as he blocks the passages
and bottleneck my soldiers, and eventually my soldiers are fighting 3vs10 of his

So i thought about it and came to a simple conclusion, don't upgrade anything
except CHR and some INT, as eventually all you need is not a stronger army but a bigger army.
and while you cant use the best armor as it is too heavy and your STR is limited
it doesn't matter because it will be your army the one which will take all the beating.

While you can take a bow and snipe threw the bottleneck, as you cant attack anyways
because your soldiers blocking your way...

I have a question though...
Is there a way to start each battle with more soldiers? why when i siege i start only with like
1/4 or 1/3 of my army?
And how can i choose what soldiers will be in the first wave?

I also noticed that i can "sneak" into the enemy city's, but i was cough, so the question
here is what dose it give me this fact that i sneak into a city?

and what dose tactics really give me? (what is this "advantage" thing?)
 
Tactics determines how many of your men will be on the battlefield compared to the enemy.
That explains why you have so few of your men. Notice the Little on screen text at the beginning of each battle.
It says something like: battle advantage = +/- x.
If you have higher tactics than your enemy and there are more men in the battle than the battlesize is set to,
then you will spawn more men than your enemy. So invest in tactics.

Not just CHR but also your renown (gained by fighting and doing quests) will increase party size.
So later in the game you can have a large army with even a few CHR points.

The soldiers at the top of your party list (just below yourself) will spawn first in a battle.

Sneaking into a town can sometimes be necessary to complete a quest. But otherwise you should just avoid it.
 
get the battle sizer so u can ahve your whole army of the field and get some companions make they work on intelligence while u work on charisma and strength
 
Chris119119 said:
get the battle sizer so u can ahve your whole army of the field and get some companions make they work on intelligence while u work on charisma and strength

Don't do that. Because they have their whole army too. If you're having trouble because they fight with more men then raising the battlesize wont help you. The amount of troops that start are based on tactics and your troops you bring with you. Of course skill wont matter, it's irrelevant (unless you were to auto-resolve).

The biggest problem I have is that you think you're good. You could have 100 top tier troops, the best armor in the game, weapons, etc... but if you don't know yet how to fight, command the troops, where the tricks are in jumping over the wall behind the enemy and hacking away at them (just an example), then no matter what you're going to continue to lose.

People that get frustrated at the beginning and especially those who come here and then post about it (see the WTF, DAMNIT, and other such threads here) need to understand that they have a lot to learn about this game. It's fairly straight forward, but the learning curve is high. To understand how the weapons function, the troops strengths/weaknesses, tricks for sieges and so forth takes time.

I'm not saying you suck or that you're a terrible M&B player. But your direct comments lead me to believe that you're inexperienced. I was saying the same thing when I first started playing and thought... "Now what the hell can I do to make this easier". The answer is to raise your tactics level, train troops to a much higher tier, and then take on ONLY what you can manage. A town of 300 plus men is too much. Try a castle with 125 or less. Learn how to scale the wall and use your experienced troops to manage the frontal assault while you sneak in behind (by leaping over the enemy and hacking at their back). You'll soon pick up on the little tricks to stay alive. Don't get discouraged though... it just takes time.
 
If you're fighting an enemy without a lot of archers or other good projectile weaponry, it would be in your best interest to grab a group of good missile troops to take out the defenders far from the walls.
 
Especialy Crossbows are a good way to deal with that.
You dont need to spend skillpoints to deal decent dmg with a crossbow (like power draw for bows or power throw for javelins) and you will have more than enough profience points to spend some of them on your crossbow profience. Even when you're short on profience points you still can practise infight or on the training court in order to get some points.
 
Another VERY important aspect of siege warfare is to have a high surgery skill! I suggest you get Jeremus as soon as possible. He starts out with 4 in surgery, but he'll soon get higher. You should also get a bit of wound treatment.

So why is surgery important in sieges?

Find a castle that don't have a really big force inside, like just a plain 100 or so garrison, and preferably no Lord or a lord with really few men. You should hope to find a castle that need ladders, not a tower, to take. If the only option is tower then make sure you bring a whole lot of food with you to try and keep the morale up, and slaughter some bandits first to boost morale up to 99.

So, you assult the castle in a perfectly normal way, you stay far back, at the end of the battle map, and watch the battle via the "Backspace menu" (just hit backspace and you'll see what I mean). When you see that you are out of men, just retreat! The magic of sieges is that any member of your army that are wounded instead of dead are given back to you! It really makes no sense since they lay wounded inside the enemy walls, but still. So, you have lost a few men, but most of them are only wounded, and the enemy will have higher losses then you have (in kills that is). So, just wait around a bit for your men to get better, and assult the castle again, and again, and again, until victory is yours!

You should also make sure that the guy with Surgeon skill is at the far bottom of your partyscreen so that you spare him for most combat (if he get wounded he cant help others, so don't get him wounded).

And as said earlier in this thread, you can boost your partysize with renown, so a massive CHA is not needed. You should maybe get your CHA up to 15 and get leadership and trade up to 5, then read the books that give you 1+ trade, and 1+ leadership. You will then get over 50 partysize bonus from CHA and leadership.
 
themagelord has made some very useful tweaks you can do to get a bigger party size without upping your leadership skills.

It is in the Library Facts under -ini tweaks.
 
subway-guy said:
themagelord has made some very useful tweaks you can do to get a bigger party size without upping your leadership skills.

It is in the Library Facts under -ini tweaks.

yeah but it dose worth it because of the morale penalty (you end up fighting with 60 or less Morale)...

P.S
I saw some youtube movies, and i noticed the speed the battles are going with
its faster then what i have, and i picked "fast" in the options...
so.. am i doing something wrong here?
or maybe there is a tweak? how can i do it?
 
r3dt4g said:
yeah but it dose worth it because of the morale penalty (you end up fighting with 60 or less Morale)...

P.S
I saw some youtube movies, and i noticed the speed the battles are going with
its faster then what i have, and i picked "fast" in the options...
so.. am i doing something wrong here?
or maybe there is a tweak? how can i do it?

Put your graphics low if you have a ****ty machine. Sometimes your computer might spit Mount&Blade out.
 
Mabons said:
r3dt4g said:
yeah but it dose worth it because of the morale penalty (you end up fighting with 60 or less Morale)...

P.S
I saw some youtube movies, and i noticed the speed the battles are going with
its faster then what i have, and i picked "fast" in the options...
so.. am i doing something wrong here?
or maybe there is a tweak? how can i do it?

Put your graphics low if you have a ****ty machine. Sometimes your computer might spit Mount&Blade out.

no im talking like MUCH faster, not like i lag, i dont have FPS drops
its just that the speed is like, limited, and i saw on youtube speeds like x2 faster then what i got
i bet its a tweak, but i dont know how to do it
 
They've either sped the footage up, or they're using a cheat character with very high agility.

If it was anything with the word "Whoopin" in it, it was the latter.
 
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