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DameGreyWulf 说:
Who is this "rest of the team"? As all the staff I've seen so far sem to disagree.

The admins and developers are different people, though the fact that ONLY the developers have been vocal in their agreement (and then only barely) should say just how controversial and silly this whole ordeal is.
 
DameGreyWulf: No developer has said anything. However, I've read tidbits of the behind-the-scenes discussion between the Devs and the Admins copypasted in IRC. Apparently Armagan pretty much stated that he would rather have it this way than new forumers writing complaints on there being so much cursing."
 
New forumites simply have yet to come to understand what this forum's all about. And I freaked out for a moment when I misread Armagan as Archonsod, I couldn't fathom him supporting this.

Where's Pavlov when you need him?
 
Nahkuri 说:
DameGreyWulf: No developer has said anything. However, I've read tidbits of the behind-the-scenes discussion between the Devs and the Admins copypasted in IRC. Apparently Armagan pretty much stated that he would rather have it this way than new forumers writing complaints on there being so much cursing."
So he's doing this because he doesn't want to deal with the newbs? That's just taking selfishness to a whole new level.
 
Someone from the tem, apparently. Not making any names, as I'm not really sure who it is.

"To be honest, it sickened me that whenever somebody complained about offensive language, people would come about and say something like "Hey, welcome to Taleworlds". Most people don't have the maturity and intelligence level to use the colorful side of the language in a light-hearted and non-offensive manner and if it takes a ban filter and rules and enforcement to clear that up, then I don't have a problem with that."
 
Nahkuri 说:
Someone from the tem, apparently. Not making any names, as I'm not really sure who it is.

"To be honest, it sickened me that whenever somebody complained about offensive language, people would come about and say something like "Hey, welcome to Taleworlds". Most people don't have the maturity and intelligence level to use the colorful side of the language in a light-hearted and non-offensive manner and if it takes a ban filter and rules and enforcement to clear that up, then I don't have a problem with that."
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CJ1145 说:
New forumites simply have yet to come to understand what this forum's all about.

No, that'd be you. The forum is about the devs game, and they can therefore make whatever decisions they like, no matter how much wailing and crying there is.

Who cares? It's just a forum for an indie game.
 
And? Why should the devs care about a bunch of internet randomers? It's irritating but you can always go find another forum if it bothers you so much.
 
Dain Ironfoot 说:
CJ1145 说:
New forumites simply have yet to come to understand what this forum's all about.

No, that'd be you. The forum is about the devs game, and they can therefore make whatever decisions they like, no matter how much wailing and crying there is.

Who cares? It's just a forum for an indie game.

Yes they can, and we can wail and cry if we happen to feel like it.

Lots of posters I've grown to like over the 5 years I've been here went FUCK IT over the devs' decision and left. That ain't nice.
 
Dain Ironfoot 说:
And? Why should the devs care about a bunch of internet randomers? It's irritating but you can always go find another forum if it bothers you so much.

The people you call "a bunch of internet randomers" are the guys who brought this game to this point. M&B is nothing without it's community.
 
Yes they can, and we can wail and cry if we happen to feel like it.

Yes you can, but don't expect to get anywhere. None of us have any rights here even if we have purchased the game. The admins tell people that on a regular basis.

I don't think this is a good decision m'self, but I can't say I care enough about my ability to swear on the internet to bother to moan. Those who are here for M&B will stay, those who are here for the OT community and really upset about not being able to swear will move to another forum. This whole thing will eventually die down and business will continue as usual.

The people you call "a bunch of internet randomers" are the guys who brought this game to this point. M&B is nothing without it's community.

Can't imagine it'll have any effect on their sales. How many potential customers will look at the forum before they buy the game, and then base their purchase on whether they can swear or not? As I said above, people will strop and leave and everything will die down eventually. We may loose some good people but that doesn't matter to the devs one jot.

I don't care about the swearing, I will feel sad if useful community members leave, but none of these argument will hold much water for the devs.
 
The short term profits may continue, but look at the gameplay. Who would play M&B without all the mods? Considering Ikisoft didn't add much to the Native in the past 2 years, without anybody to mod the game would be a doom for M&B.
 
If we see a mass exodus of modders, that would be cause for community members to be concerned. Doesn't seem to be the case at the moment however, the vast majority of those complaining are those who spend virtually all their time in off topic. Modding tends to need a certain amount of dedication, and if that dedication is destroyed by the addition of a swear filter to forum of the game your modding for, it's likely you're not going to produce anything anyway. I could still go over to MBX if I was incredibly bothered by it as well.

Note how I said community there. We may be concerned, but I'm not sure the devs would care too much about a decrease in the number of mods. Once again, I've seen various admins arguing against those who say M&B needs mods to survive.

I'd like to reiterate before I get leapt on by various people who dislike reading and comprehending posts that my own personal view is that this is a disappointing decision, but it doesn't bother me enough to take a stand. I'm simply pointing out that the devs really have no reason to care about the hoo-ha it's created.
 
I understand your point of view Dain, but TW wasn't like that. TW genuinely cared about the community when only Armagan and Ipek worked on this game.
 
I've been here a while. I do know and understand that, but this is simply part of Taleworlds becoming a larger and more professional company. Of course it's going to become more impersonal.
 
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