Simple MP Battle commands

[Thomak]

This might have been discussed back and forth, but I couldn't find exactly what I'm suggesting. Please move or delete this topic if it is redundant.

After playing a lot of Battle scenarios, only extremely rarely is there anything resembling teamwork. Mostly its reduced to "everyone stay at farm pls!" and so on. Here is a simple idea that would make Battles more interesting (And perhaps more "realistic")

1. There must be elected 1 commander for every battle. (Add election system..)

2. The commander get's a special weapon, i.ex a bow that can shoot flags. Where the arrow lands there is a flag erected.  (Modify a weapon and missiles)

3. Every class has their symbol on this flag. I.ex archers have a yellow flag with an archer symbol on it, cavalry is blue, and infantry is red with a swordman on it.

in short: Elect the Commander, Give him a bow and 3 kinds of arrows, These arrows spawn flags.

Of course this could be elaborated with more coding, but keeping it simple for now.

Hope this was not redundant, what do you think?

Thomak.

(It would of course be awesome with a rank system and players carrying squad-flags, being able to shout formations on squad level, picking up the flag if a player dies etc. One could even make it a win condition to take the enemy's command-flag!)

 

[someboddy]

Why do we need a flag shooting bow? Why not use the SP system where you can hold F1 to place a flag on the field?

 

[Thomak]

Ah, to make it clearer.

Because then the commander wouldn't have to move around so much. As the SP system is, you have to ride where you want your troops to stand. I figure it would be best if he could just "point" somehow. Therefore the arrows. + It could be made cool, like a little bit bigger arrow with a red band on it or something similiar. Maybe when it landed it would become bigger i dunno. Or simply transform into a flag.

It would be hard for the commander to assign an attack, if he had to ride into the fortress to do it.

Of course, the SP system extended to communicate with MP classes would also be cool.

What do you think?

Maybe some of these elements could just be a mod..

 

[The_Freeman]

Why do we need a flag shooting bow? Why not use the SP system where you can hold F1 to place a flag on the field?

Hey, talk for yourself! I want a flag-shooting bow! Can you imagine how cool it would be to impale your opponent on a flag every kill?

 

[Marin Peace Bringer]

Its alright guys, I am planning a mod that will implement something like this, along with others things, 

 

[Thomak]

Cool!

Sounds great. Only one thing that I came up with in afterthought. I would be great if the previous arrow also disappeared when you shot a new one.. or the battlefield could become really confusing..

A sound that played when the different arrows were shot would also be good for awareness.. This could also of course be abused and be incredibly annoying. Like the commander in BF2 spamming "Enemy spotted".

But imagine different horn sounds for Cav, Archers and Infantry.. Ahhh.. Any brass players out there that care to record some Fanfares? lol..

Generally, it would be cool to add Horns & Flags to the game.. Maybe this could be the name of the mod? hehe..

 

[Marin Peace Bringer]

My hopes for the mod is to add things such as: Kneeling, (and maybe pike bracing) marching (or like walking were no matter what stuff you had with you, you always walked the same speed, but it would be pretty slow, therefore making it easier for REAL people to walk in formation) and something like this.  I was thinking have it just like SP, but simpler, so just like "hold position" "charge" "advance" "retreat" stuff like that.  Now how to make it so its not annoying... well there are two ways, one, make it were ONE class can do it, and make it so only one or two people can be that class (dont know how hard it would be to make that) but the problem there is if some idiot got in as that class.  But the main thing is, the mod i am planning is for our clan, and possible for clan matches, so how things would work in a PUG game i am not sure.

Anyway, if you have modding expertise, and would like to help, PM me 

 

[Thomak]

Sorry I have absolutely zero modding experience.. 

Basically I don't really see the need for a huge mod this round. If the simple mod becomes popular, then it should be no problem getting help to improving it. Taleworlds sometimes also implement good ideas in mods, so who knows?

For this simple thing to work 2 things are necessary as I see it

1. A leader class, maybe he could be elected with the poll system already there. It would be easy to throw bad leaders at least. And not everyone wants to be a leader, so hopefully the poll wouldn't be spammed too much.

2. Three types of special arrows, only available to the leader that are:

A: very visible and/or transform into colored flags of different kinds (Faction specific symbols!)
B: have unique sound (faction specific! I'm thinking Horns here! Not violins or UT-sounds. HORNS!)
C: that disappear when the next arrow of same kind is shot, or only last a short while like 20-30 seconds

That's all I would wish for now. Of course I'm thinking PUG games here. For Clan matches you don't need the idiot proofing, and the leader wouldn't have to be electable etc..

Now don't go ahead and make the mod too big! If you want, I can help with images(textures?) for the flags.

 

[someboddy]

Ah, to make it clearer.

Because then the commander wouldn't have to move around so much. As the SP system is, you have to ride where you want your troops to stand. I figure it would be best if he could just "point" somehow. Therefore the arrows. + It could be made cool, like a little bit bigger arrow with a red band on it or something similiar. Maybe when it landed it would become bigger i dunno. Or simply transform into a flag.

It would be hard for the commander to assign an attack, if he had to ride into the fortress to do it.

In Warband you can hold down F1 and a flag will appear where you point your crosshair. Release F1 - and selected troops will go to that place. As long as you can see it, you can order your troops to go there.

You can also click the minimap-radar when it's available, but putting in in MP is a BAD idea - goodbye stealth...

 

[Marin Peace Bringer]

Well the main thing of the mod was the other stuff (kneeling, march etc.) and i thought this would be another good one to add.

Anyway, if you want to help with textures that would be fine, but i would rather just use the system that is there, like someboddy said, the F1 and release and all that.

 

[Thomak]

Yes I tested and noticed it

I never saw it when i played original mount&blade last year, but its there for sure. Lets hope they make something like this for MP

Good luck with you mod! PM me if you need some help, and I'll see what i can do.