Signature Weapons

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Sorry if this has been suggested before but I'd really like a bit more individualism in the two factions weaponry and armour. At the moment their limited to very real world weapons. I'm not suggesting magic or out of this world stuff before anyone jumps on me what I would like to see are different weapons or armours for both factions. Like a Vaegir Scimitar of Khopesh that looks just that little bit different from what normally we expect. Or like Swadian Plate which could be more angular then what we see at the moment. Just things like this. I'd also like to see a unique shield design for each side even if it's just a different logo painted onto a Kite shield or something.
 
Thats sounds like a good idea. since not all factions would have same weapons, it would be more different ones. at the moment, I usually stop buying weapons and armour quite early in the game, since I dont need any better. but whit more weapons, it will take longer time before buying new weapons would be unnecessearly.
 
That would be nice if we could have personal signature weapons smithed. mine :

Grimlad Death Cleaver :grin:

a two handed 5 foot one bit axe, with an angular blade, leather wrapped handle (on the end and middle, can be held in two positions) with lots of runes and celtic designs inlaid in silver on it. The shaft is octangular, and made of steel, as is the head. The side opposite the bit has a flat hammer face, overall weight is around 50 pounds, not good for long term use, as it would be tiring.

ingame stats would probably be around these:

length: ~140
value: priceless :grin:
swing: 60
 
He doesn't mean unique weapons, which is why I'm not about to bash him for using the search button. This is more of a new suggestion. He means FACTION unique weapons, not PERSONAL weapons. Like, for example, a Swadian bastard sword would be better than a Vaegir smithed one, but a Vaegir war bow kicks a Swadian war bow's ass. Things like that.
 
That's excactly what I meant Crazy (as in your name, not calling you crazy) I really like how this game is free of most fantasy type influences but at the same time Caladria is a functioning world that would have grown up with it's own unique cultures. You see cultural influences often most clearly on weapons and armour so I think the two warring factions should have their own take on things.
 
I know that is what he meant, but I went offtopic and took it farther :razz: Faction weapons would be nice, but is there enough differences in them that they would hayve developed unque weapons? Not really, and if they did, next time the other side saw one, they would copy it.
 
Good idea.
It might have a good chance of getting in there too.
At the moment, equipment on soldiers depends on the faction (vaegir knights use axes and swadians use bastard swords etc) but it would be nice if faction specific equipment was rare in cities of the another faction.
 
jellywerker said:
I know that is what he meant, but I went offtopic and took it farther :razz: Faction weapons would be nice, but is there enough differences in them that they would hayve developed unque weapons? Not really, and if they did, next time the other side saw one, they would copy it.
No, they'd be stubborn, and either leave it, or keep it as a souvenier. No one actually copied the enemies' designs back then (or at least not very openly).
 
Were you there? :razz:

I think that if you saw a man kill ten of your men with a new weapon, and he left it on the battlefield, you'd copy it darn quick!
 
CrazyEyes said:
jellywerker said:
I know that is what he meant, but I went offtopic and took it farther :razz: Faction weapons would be nice, but is there enough differences in them that they would hayve developed unque weapons? Not really, and if they did, next time the other side saw one, they would copy it.
No, they'd be stubborn, and either leave it, or keep it as a souvenier. No one actually copied the enemies' designs back then (or at least not very openly).

Back then, in antiquity? Or in the medieval period?

Rome's ripoff of the Spanish Sword (gladius), of the Eastern Cataphract (Later-periods horse), of Gallic Chainmail, of Samnite's method of warfare (Which brought them out of the phalanx and into the maniple)..

Everyone and their mother copying the Macedonian Phalanx!

Though, if you mean't medieval periods, then yeah, perhaps so.
 
It wouldn't make sense for both sides to begin copying each other's weapons.

I mean, there's obviously some religious dictate affecting ranged weapons. Obviously this is why the war is being fought, those crossbow\bow using heretics!
 
There was such a thing as Damascus steel and it couldn't be copied because of either a lack of resources or the skill to make it. In the fantasy land of Vaegir versus Swadian there is a realistic difference between the gear of each of those armies, whether it is because of practical tradition or religious reasons really doesn't matter. I like the idea of different looking weapons just for making a fighter that is in the style that you want but I think it is covered. In this tiny war torn land you have Vikings, Mongols, etc. It would be tough to squeeze in Samurai and Celtic warriors until this imaginary world gets a little bigger.
 
It has been suggested before, but it's still one of the best ideas we have, I think. I'm pretty sure Armagan is planning on having this kind of thing.

Something like this -

Vaegirs have one of those double headed eagle thingies in gold, on a red field, as their emblem/logo/whatever. All units who are above the rank of footman (not footmen themselves) will have some sort of equipment bearing this emblem/logo/whatever. Footsoldiers and horsemen have it on their shields (if they have a shield) and the highest ranking footsoldiers/horsemen (vaegir guards, vaegir knights, and vaegir sharpshooters (right?)) have it on their armor (kind of like a heraldric armor thingy.)

Swadians would have, say, a silver lion, on a dark blue field. The way the emblem shows up would be the same as with the vaegirs.

Also, more of a standardized equipment thingy would be nice. So instead of your army of 20 vaegir knights all looking completely different, they could have similar equipment. For example, they could all wear plate armor, great helms, iron greaves, and chain gauntlets. Their unique plate armor would have the Vaegir emblem on it, as well as their shield if they have one.

Perhaps there could be more than 1 type of knight? This way, you could have the kind of knights you want. So instead of a random assortment of weapons, you could upgrade them to just use swords, just polearms, etc. etc.

I know it's been mentioned before, but...

Formations would be nice too.
 
Yeah, it's great stuff - picture this: If you want a Khergit bow or nomad sabre, you can get them in Tulga or Jelkala. Nordic Shields and helmets are for sale in Tihr or Wercheg. Swadians prefer crossbows, Vaegirs prefer bows, so you can't get heavy and sniper crossbows in Vaegir cities...
And EVERYTHING is available in neutral areas like the Salt Mines, but it'd be VERY expensive!

as to copying - yes, it DID happen in the middle ages, but habit died hard - 100 years' war is a perfect example. Particularly armour styles - this is already quite well done though, with the swadians preferring heraldic and plate armour, the vaegirs opting for chain-mail and leather.

So, harder! Faster! Better, more!
 
Sir Saladin said:
I like the idea of different looking weapons just for making a fighter that is in the style that you want but I think it is covered. In this tiny war torn land you have Vikings, Mongols, etc. It would be tough to squeeze in Samurai and Celtic warriors until this imaginary world gets a little bigger.

Well I'm not talking about just adding in new weapons from different cultures. Particularly not Samurai (Unrepentant Samurai hater, don't start the debate here, there are posts for it) but I would like a slight departure from the real world in the sense of making it unique to the two factions. Not just some real world factions gear transported across.
 
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