Sieges, more then one ladder?

[Jaksan]

Is there some way to add more then one frecking puny ladder? I hate it, not realistic at all and it makes it so hard to take a castle without 4 times the troop amount. If you get eeh Siege tower or the ramp its much easier but the normal ladder sucks. I just fought and before i got knocked out we had lost over 80 soldiers, they 17. that means I have to bring around 400 soldier to kill 100.

 

[Merlkir]

it's annoying, but taking castles is supposed to be hard. Has been mentioned many times before.

 

[Frankoman]

There are two castles (and one town) with two ladders. They aren't the greatest, for the AI usually sticks to one anyways. Besides, the point of taking a castle is to make it hard for the player. Do you think it was easy for castles to be taken? Ladders would be pushed off, troops would be knocked down and killed, etc. Because we can't do a lot of what made sieges tough, we break it down to it's basic form.

The first recorded siege included one rope and one ladder. The sieging army won the battle and were outnumbered I believe 3 to 1.

Also, you need higher tier troops. If your in the battle and your troops are dying at that rate, you really are using weak troops. I usually take my first castle with around 55 men, being higher tier troops (about half of them being very strong archers).

Just think like a military commander and not a brute click and hammer warlord. You win wars by outmaneuvering or by overpowering. Use strategy or outnumber, your choice.

 

[Jaksan]

Of course it supposed to be hard, but having one ladder is NOT realistic in any way at all. There could be one ladder for smaller sieges but once you get to higher number 2 ore more would be nice.

 

[Frankoman]

I do admit they are glitchy, but I find sieging a bit too easy (Difficulty 107%). I personally am a strategist, and sieging for me is a combination of correct troops and the right strategy. If you have a strong character, then tell your infantry to follow you and when your half way up the ladder tell them to charge. About the time you get to the top, they will be right behind you. You don't have to worry about them knocking you off, and you can get up the wall easier.

With your strategy, I use my archers to fire on the towers while I lead the infantry up the wall. I clear the main battlements, then get the archers to hold position right by the ladder. I lead the infantry to the courtyard to fight the enemy, then I tell everyone to rout out any small pockets of resistance that might have survived the initial sweep. Because of the archer cover, there is minimal fire while you climb the ladder, then because they guard the ladder, they both cover your infantry as they come up and assist you in the heat of battle.

Now if you can't comprehend that, and I'm not saying you can't, but in general, the only other way to really win is to preform a barbarian type tactic and just outnumber - out power the enemy.

Good luck, and just have fun.

 

[Tomor]

Is there some way to add more then one frecking puny ladder? I hate it, not realistic at all and it makes it so hard to take a castle without 4 times the troop amount. If you get eeh Siege tower or the ramp its much easier but the normal ladder sucks. I just fought and before i got knocked out we had lost over 80 soldiers, they 17. that means I have to bring around 400 soldier to kill 100.

You know, you could just tell them to hold position and let you go first. When you're about there, tell them to charge or follow.

 

[Galtran]

you could also have a high surgery. That way most of your soldiers will be just knocked unconscious and theirs will be dead, the it´s all about pacience and strike after strike(that´s how I take castles when outnumbered, usually I kill around 60 for 2(dead, around 15 unconscious) troops of mine

 

[Durandal]

Is there some way to add more then one frecking puny ladder? I hate it, not realistic at all and it makes it so hard to take a castle without 4 times the troop amount. If you get eeh Siege tower or the ramp its much easier but the normal ladder sucks. I just fought and before i got knocked out we had lost over 80 soldiers, they 17. that means I have to bring around 400 soldier to kill 100.

You don't always need those odds to win. Bring some heavy troops and send them first under archer cover. The big guys (Swadian Knights, Vaegir Knights, Nord Huscarls, for example) tend to dish a good punishment before they go down. If you've got some high level companions too, you can use them to force the entrance.

Or, if your troops are shooter-based, charge the ladder yourself with a big fat polearm or sword and swing away, playing attack and retreat while on the ladder. If you do it right, by swinging while advancing up the ladder and then immediately backing off, you smack an enemy and cause their shorter range weapons to miss. Repeat until their front is thin enough to charge through.

 

[cfnz]

  Use edit mode to add ladders to sieges.

 

[Steele]

Suno has two ladders. Last night I seiged it and the AI used the right ladder and I had the left all to myself. It was great not being pushed off for a change, or getting that annoying slide bug down the ladder.

 

[lumikant]

I think they should add more ladders around the same time they let nords with axes cut them away from their walls.

 

[Durandal]

Suno has two ladders. Last night I seiged it and the AI used the right ladder and I had the left all to myself. It was great not being pushed off for a change, or getting that annoying slide bug down the ladder.

Yeah... that slide bug sucks... I had this one time where it really, REALLY seemed to bug out and dealt me like 100 damage on the way down, knocking me out.

 

[DAWUSS]

Or you could try waiting for the bottleneck to clear up as your battalion slaughters its way through. Just beware of those archers. They'll get ya.