should there be a cultural variety of armor and weapons in the game?

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its not outside, none of them are


and the Celts were not in the Middle Ages, the Middle Ages started after the fall of Rome


for the simple fact of saying that it is based does not exclude them from the subject, it is a fictional work, and if they want to put it, whoever will complain, they have already done it
I think you have quoted the devs' vision that this game is based on medieval. So yeah, some countries are definitely excluded. And this may be shocking to you, but Irish, Scots and Bretons are Celts, and they are very important players of medieval times. This is a fictional work, but it has a setting. To suggest that something is fiction so it should forgo every limit and rule is simply ridiculous.
 
Except in this case, GLR476 was absolutely being overtly racist in this thread in many of his posts. That's why he has been muted and all of his reprehensible posts have been removed.
Well done, but hopefully next time it will be more timely and less traumatic for the victim.
 
I think you have quoted the devs' vision that this game is based on medieval. So yeah, some countries are definitely excluded. And this may be shocking to you, but Irish, Scots and Bretons are Celts, and they are very important players of medieval times. This is a fictional work, but it has a setting. To suggest that something is fiction so it should forgo every limit and rule is simply ridiculous.
and the arab tribes ?
 
and the arab tribes ?
Muslims are important to European history. So it is, of course, OK to add the Saracens. And just because Bannerlord is set before Warband does not mean they should be pre-Islamic. Besides, even pre-Islamic Arab tribes had many recorded contacts with the Romans. And I believe the in-game text for the leader of the Aserais suggest that he is indeed a Sultan.
 
Muslims are important to European history. So it is, of course, OK to add the Saracens. And just because Bannerlord is set before Warband does not mean they should be pre-Islamic. Besides, even pre-Islamic Arab tribes had many recorded contacts with the Romans.
the middle age start After the fall of rome
The medieval Era had no rome and the pre-islamic tribes VII Century the Battanians are A mishmash of Celtic tribes from the Emerald Isle to the Black Sea. Basically everyone the Romans fought north of the Empire.Shoutout to Thracia for the Falxes.
 
This again may be shocking to you, but the fall of Rome does not equal to the fall of the Roman Empire. The Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire.
The byzantine was the romam empire yes, that is why u call them as Byzantine empire istead of Roman Empire,


the Eastern Roman Empire
 
The byzantine was the romam empire yes, that is why u call them as Byzantine empire istead of Roman Empire
Because historians need good terminologies. Take Chinese history for an example, we call West Han, East Han, Shu Han, Hou Han, because we need to differentiate these regimes. In fact, they just called themselves Han, and the first three are actually basically the same thing.
 
The byzantine was the romam empire yes, that is why u call them as Byzantine empire istead of Roman Empire,


the Eastern Roman Empire
Now I don't want to rumble about history lessons, I do that for a living. My point is just: make clear what the game setting is, which is in the game description and advertisement, before asking something so loudly.
 
Because historians need good terminologies. Take Chinese history for an example, we call West Han, East Han, Shu Han, Hou Han, because we need to differentiate these regimes. In fact, they just called themselves Han, and the first three are actually basically the same thing.
Ok man, you're right, relax there and go play
 
Now I don't want to rumble about history lessons, I do that for a living. My point is just: make clear what the game setting is, which is in the game description and advertisement, before asking something so loudly.

where are the crusaders
 
Check the term 'sandbox'. Again, why bother, you can think what you think, this is becoming ridiculous.
What could be more ridiculous? I say that or you trying to state how realistic this game with a fictional world has to be
 
If a DLC or mod, it will be the asia-pacific region map plate. And they will look for Netease to advertise.
In this DLC or mod, we China will be like the empire of mb2. Then the player will feeling of strangeness see that a non - militaristic commercial agricultural ancient power burn villages, kill farmers, and rob caravans everywhere.
And coastal areas will be essential, there may be a naval battle, the entire map will be unified in a few years by the strange form of military imperialism of ancient China...
The heat weapons I guess are just a few of the original blunderbuss, the siege machinery should remain the same, and there might be cannons, ecause it's ancient.
如果是dlc或mod,那地图会是整个亚太地块,并且他们会找网易进行宣传。
在这个dlc或mod里,我们中国会像骑砍2里的帝国一样,然后玩家们会违和地看到非军事帝国主义的商农业古代大国在到处烧村、杀农民和抢劫商队。
沿海地区必不可少,可能会有海战,这整个地图没有几年,就会被奇怪的军事帝国主义形式的古代中国统一。。。
热武器我猜也就几个最初的铳枪,攻城机械应该不变,可能会有大炮这种,因为是古代。
 
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So, again, why a China-based faction when we already have the Khuzait? Their stuffs are almost the same. I thought I already mentioned this?

Actually not, Chinese are not nomadic people and usually heavily infantry based, Chinese excels in city/town siege warfare, the Han empire relies on heavily fortified infantry each time they expedite north to meet the XiongNu, on the battlefield however, the face offs are usually the chinese infantry's ability to hold formation to survive the horse archers (and often contingents of archers to counter the HA) and charge to rout the enemy infantry while holding against their calvary. when they charge, it at times involves dropping off their shields and swords in opt for more polearm based weapons presumably for stamina and endurance for the melee.

What the ancient Chinese armies are good at is their ability to fortify with makeshift camps each time they settle by the end of the day, it's like a mobile fortress. The downside is that supply line and foraging is challenging for heavily agricultural based society compared to the nomadic tribes.

it is truly astounding that however, China's interaction with the central asia city states whom mostly are remnants of the Hellenic Alexandar Empire mixed with nomadic tribes (who are better representation of the Khuzaits IMHO), usually results in that actual siege and conquest battles are not challenging, as a matter of fact, a very high proportion of casualties are due to the supply line issues across the GoBi desert, whether they got lost, or ill prepared. but many a times, the Han Empire would have send a very small contingent of troops and rather, use their governors in the so called Xi Yu (West Domain) to conscript other city states to provide the troops. There are many occasion that the Chinese expedition would simply siege or face off enemies in those places without conscripting allied city states, even when the odds are overwhelmingly against the Expedition, the Han forces still many a times come out triumphant. Of course there are also lame generals who can't lead and lost many a battles against those city states...(李廣利 for example), but the overall picture is up until later Han, those city states don't pose a challenge to the Chinese military.

Situation were not so different in the midst of Tang Dynasty, which is around 8~9 Century. But the Tang Dynasty was very well in a good hegemony position over the central asia states who became fewer kingdoms and khanates often owning several cities/towns each instead of individul city states. At least the hegemoney continued until roughly when the civil war started by 安祿山 (of whom, also is a central Asia origin and not Chinese, he supposedly is a Kanju Sogdian, who I really like to think are the actual Khuzaits as 康居 sounds almost similar to Khergit in pronouciation and their location to be just close to the Caspian seas...)

Anyway, ancient Chinese ruling system are vastly different from the Medieval Europe, and it just cannot likely to coexist in the base game's mechanics.
 
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