Should Japan get its full army back? (not only for self defense)

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Sofia Johanna Jeanette Munsterhjelm von Platen 说:
Firstly, the Japanese Constitution prohibits the deployment of the JSDF outside of Japan and is also the reason why it's called a "Self-Defence Force" and not a military.

Secondly, it already is fairly large and is really well equipped. Despite the name, it is quite capable. Abe has been increasing military budgets for a while now and it shows with the JSDF.

Thirdly, everyone should remember that Japan is far more than just Shinjuku cosplayers or Akihabara nerds. All the weird stuff is exaggerated and amplified - Japan isn't actually crowded with tentacle porn, nor are there vending machines selling used panties on each street corner. While the hikikomori problem does exist, it is a fringe thing. Japanese youth at large are no more inept when it comes to social interactions than their Western counterparts. You morons watch too much **** anime.

Fourthly, Japan has not done the same cultural soul-searching that Germany did after WW2. There still exists a strong Nationalistic element in Japanese politics.  This is why South-Korea and China and Taiwan and even Philippines are quite vary of the resurgence of militarism and nationalism in Japan. However, the threat should not be exaggerated, as there is a quite strong leftist and pacifist element too, that acts as a counter-balance.

Every time you post you act like you are the end-all be-all authority on ****. No nigga Japanese kids do have social problems that isn't just anime, its a cultural issue. Similar to the geographic issue that pushes Japan to be imperialistic in general. I haven't seen anyone bring up the demographic catastrophe that's going on in Japan regarding their population decline (ie everywhere). Also since they opened up their economy they've been relying on economic packages from the government to sustain their prosperity. It would not be surprising to see Japan take a leading political role in East Asia once they've reestablished their military sovereignty for eerily similar reasons as the Hirohito regime.
 
Okay, so they'll send the senior citizenry battalions first to soften up the enemy. It is their duty to save money for the military effort in more ways than one.
 
DYSTOPIAN 说:
I haven't seen anyone bring up the demographic catastrophe that's going on in Japan.

Because it's kind of irrelevant. Flyingfishy said that the young male population is socially inept and needs the army to straighten them out, and JhessiKKKa said that's an exaggeration and Japan is pretty normal. The aging population is a completely different issue.

DYSTOPIAN 说:
It would not be surprising to see Japan take a leading political role in East Asia once they've reestablished their military sovereignty for eerily similar reasons as the Hirohito regime.

What did he mean by this?
 
DYSTOPIAN 说:
Also since they opened up their economy they've been relying on economic packages from the government to sustain their prosperity. It would not be surprising to see Japan take a leading political role in East Asia once they've reestablished their military sovereignty for eerily similar reasons as the Hirohito regime.

use your imagination, maybe a bit of victoria 2 logic
 
Yeah, while the anime culture is greatly exaggerated, the general societal failure of Japan's male population to, well, succeed is a genuine phenomenon. There are real counter-cultures in Japan's female population to change the way the last few generation's men live their lives, from holding dating events where the women approach the men (generally still frowned upon in Japan's society, just as it is still in the west although to a much lesser extent) to dressing in kimono and engaging in other traditional activities in an effort to encourage men to connect with their roots and also engage in more traditional activities rather than spending 16 hours a day in an office and the other 8 sleeping, playing games and watching TV.

Then, of course, there's all the Japanese women who just gave up and emigrate en masse to marry foreigners.

Regardless, I don't see any military endeavour fixing any of that.
 
DYSTOPIAN 说:
DYSTOPIAN 说:
Also since they opened up their economy they've been relying on economic packages from the government to sustain their prosperity. It would not be surprising to see Japan take a leading political role in East Asia once they've reestablished their military sovereignty for eerily similar reasons as the Hirohito regime.

use your imagination, maybe a bit of victoria 2 logic
Or you could just explain what you mean.
 
They should develop their version of Volkssturm, conscript all the old people in wheel chairs, bedridden and adult diapers to do stuff like pilot those remote weapon platforms and military drones.  Then they'll be ready to take on Godzilla next time the bastard crawls out the water and starts damaging public amenities.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkssturm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_Japan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_weapon_station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_combat_aerial_vehicle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_diaper
 
DYSTOPIAN 说:
I'd rather not embarrass myself either  :oops:

too late
Too late indeed.

DYSTOPIAN 说:
Every time you post you act like you are the end-all be-all authority on ****
Largely because I only post when I know something about the subject. I know, it's a shocking thought: people who actually don't spend their time ****-posting randomly but actually share their knowledge. And in this case Jacob had no trouble understanding the context of my post:
JACVBHINDS // 寒心420? 说:
Flyingfishy said that the young male population is socially inept and needs the army to straighten them out, and JhessiKKKa said that's an exaggeration and Japan is pretty normal.

The idea of Japan starting to subjugate its neighbours through military force is laughable. The reason I made those points was because several posters in the thread seemed not to be aware that it's not just a name change that Rebel was proposing/thinking about, it requires a change of the constitution - and also that Japan has had a "proper" military ever since the Korean war made US aware that the country has to be able to defend itself. And that anime isn't real and Japanese kids don't run to school with toast in their mouths:
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Jean-Chrysostôme Bruneteau de Sainte-Suzanne 说:
Yeah, while the anime culture is greatly exaggerated, the general societal failure of Japan's male population to, well, succeed is a genuine phenomenon.
Explain further. I am only aware of the hikikomori thing where they become hermits and then the traditional salaryman thing.
 
Hey there's no fault in mixing up ****posting with knowledge giving, no one likes an uptight academic. Dude you post about **** you don't know anything about all the time don't give me this omniscient mightier-than-thou crap.
 
DYSTOPIAN 说:
Hey there's no fault in mixing up ****posting with knowledge giving, no one likes an uptight academic. Dude you post about **** you don't know anything about all the time don't give me this omniscient mightier-than-thou crap.
Jhessail is indeed an omniscient ancient being with a big veined omniscient penis. Beware the penis!
 
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