I am just wondering if it is worth it to clear them out, do they actually leave or will the same person come back but now he hates you?
If merchants replace them and you do quests for them to increase their strength and town prosperity, maybe then in a tiny way, you would be helping your workshopGreat question....and will my workshops be more profitable without gang leaders?
This alone gives me incentive to try it Thanks!It makes the other gang leader and notables like you more, but I think it takes some time for the second gang leader to go away. I don't think you automatically get a new notable but it uses the...... I don't remeber.... town do good long time = more notables
I hope in the future they flesh it out a bit more.I always ASS-U-ME-D gangs would steal merchants $$$ and you'd need to get rid of them ... but I think that's wrong.
Gangs OWN water-fronts, Back-streets, shops etc etc so .... ????????
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Interesting, thanks for the infoIt happened that - for some reason lol - I killed a gang leader with the console command, well , he or she was immediately replaced with another NPC of the same kind : gang leader
Yeah, so if i don't like the recruitment tree they offer and they have low power, it might be worth it. Relationship gain and a brand new gang leader that doesn't hate you sounds tempting.Gang system is not really implemented.
To resume what kind of interaction gang leader offers currently:
You can't remove them definitely, the game will create a new one the next day in case they die or disappear (if really low power).
- Issues for easy money early game
- Allow troop recruitment
- Buy workshops
- Support town owner clan
They get power through the workshop and common areas they own and when supportive of current town owner.
More power means higher level of troops to recruit.
Attacking thugs (working perfectly) in town allow you to increase your relation with other NPC than the gang leader ruling that area (s.he will lose it btw) and has other effects that I didn't really pay attention to.
There is a lot of potential left there. Best scenario is they polish it and implement it before official release... Worst scenario is they keep it for a future DLC...
Troop tree doesn't really change from one leader to another, it is linked with town leader faction.Yeah, so if i don't like the recruitment tree they offer and they have low power, it might be worth it. Relationship gain and a brand new gang leader that doesn't hate you sounds tempting.
They probably won't look at this any time soon but who knows.
Thanks, really appreciate the well written response!
This sounds like a fun thing to do if i have nothing else that needs doingTroop tree doesn't really change from one leader to another, it is linked with town leader faction.
From recruitment perspective, you need to aim a high relation (more slots) and a powerful NPC (higher level).
So yeah if the relation is really negative and power really low, you may clear the areas s.he owns, buy out her/his workshop to negatively impact the power and increase the chance s.he gets swapped.
The thugs fight (2 phases) is not that bad and the loot is quite nice too.
I don't think the gang leader have anything to do with town prosperityI am just wondering if it is worth it to clear them out, do they actually leave or will the same person come back but now he hates you?
Gang leader will not impact propserity but prosperity level decides the number of notables to spawn in town (artisans, merchants and gang leaders).I don't think the gang leader have anything to do with town prosperity
Let's face it, gang is not trying to disrupt business, with gang or without gang, town will still grow over time
High Loyalty probably give more bonus to prosperity.
you can even recruit more slots if you have high relationship with gang leader
I remember one of the skill trait is about gang leader can give you more recruiting slots
The reason i asked is because some of my towns have 3 merchants some have 3 gang leaders, if i had to choose, i would prefer more merchants for the perk that gives bonus to gaining relations with them and if along the way me clearing the gangs makes everyone else happy then it a win win.I don't think the gang leader have anything to do with town prosperity
Let's face it, gang is not trying to disrupt business, with gang or without gang, town will still grow over time
High Loyalty probably give more bonus to prosperity.
you can even recruit more slots if you have high relationship with gang leader
I remember one of the skill trait is about gang leader can give you more recruiting slots
One day i hope we can appoint a companion to be a gang leader <3Not sure I understood well : can we eliminate some gang leaders?
I mean by killing them during quests?
I'm not fond of their quests since they happen to lower relation with merchants/artisans/rivals... so I have not tried these quest a lot and I am a bit unschooled on this matter
Hem... maybe it is not exactly what you are expecting but I tried to expand the roguery gameplay in my mod.One day i hope we can appoint a companion to be a gang leader <3
What's the name of your mod?Hem... maybe it is not exactly what you are expecting but I tried to expand the roguery gameplay in my mod.
You can try it out until tw decides to flesh out that part of the game.