Sheaths Please?

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Lord Jaden

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I know its hard to do, but it will make the immersion factor sky rocket...SHEATHS... you know, at the side for one armed swords, back straps for 2 handers, and like a belt loop for all odd shaped weapons such as maces. Pole arms? If your carrying one you must be limited to one shield, or one small side arm (dagger). NOT BOTH. And when fighting to even it out pole arms will be stronger and just a little more defensive. Small weapons should have side sheaths: legs, sides, shoulders. The likes.
THIS IS A SUGGESTION FOR THE GAME AS WELL AS ONE FOR MODDERS

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Has been suggested before, everybody wants cool sheaths and a smarter weapon system that makes it difficult to go to battle carrying 4 great lances, by that I mean being able to put 4 great lances in the weapon slots and suffer little encuberance.

This sort of weapon layout should have an exponential modifier to make it very clumsy to carry.

EDIT: It would also be cool to have ranged weapons visible aswell, so that if you're carrying 3 large bags of Javelins, you'd get a bunch of Javelins in your off-hand/shield hand, plus two other bunches in your back, and etc.
 
On the polearm point, I think, realistically, once you stopped using a pole arm you'd have to drop it and go to another weapon. Meaning that you'd only be able to carry one (in your hands/others in baggage).
Mind you, if that were implemented then it would be nice to be able to pick up weapons from the field (and your spear too).

About balancing, I use polearms (not glaives or the like) with my character and i find them quite effective and not as limiting as they first seem to be.

P.S. I support the scabbard idea
 
I agree with the sheths. at the moment the people just seem to pull a wepon out of there skin.Which i think is impossible unless your somekind of alien.
 
No it's not, Houdini kept his picks in the caliuses on his feet. You CAN make a sheath for a knife in your skin without it harming organs and such, thoguhyou might be taken to a psychiratrist. And of course, I bet that a lot of these sugggestinos Armagan already had plans for but probably is helped by our discussions.
 
By the way.. A male horse's testicles are officially called 'sheath' as well...
(or rather the part where the penis slides back in) Sorry for pointing it out.. just kinda keep getting the wrong impression every time I look at this thread...
 
Manitas said:
Volkier said:
By the way.. A male horse's testicles are officially called 'sheath' as well...
Then how are female horse's testicles called? :wink:
ummmmm ovaries.. in a way :razz:
ehem. sorry yeah, weapon sheaths (so volkier stops thinking about balls and scrotums :lol: ) and scabbards would be cool.
 
About the not-carrying-a-bunch-of-lances-into-combat thing... what if each of the weapon slots could be used for certain weapons.

Example from top of head: 2 first slots would be each of the sides of the body (left/right, that is), and could be used for 1-handed weapons or queviers/thrown ('cept javelins maybe). The last 2 could be stuff slung over your back, and be used 1-handed weapons, quivers/thrown and 2-handed weapons. Only 1 of the back-slots could be used for polearm, or a polearm could use both the back-slots. ... or there could be some skill to make the different slots more useful or some such (with high skill you could have a 2-hander at each side and 2 polearms over your back :razz:) (if this made it so that not everyone had a slot that could take (for example) a polearm, there could be another slot for the weapon you'd be wielding when entering combat, that you'd throw away when changing it for something else).
 
Gnarf said:
About the not-carrying-a-bunch-of-lances-into-combat thing... what if each of the weapon slots could be used for certain weapons.

Example from top of head: 2 first slots would be each of the sides of the body (left/right, that is), and could be used for 1-handed weapons or queviers/thrown ('cept javelins maybe). The last 2 could be stuff slung over your back, and be used 1-handed weapons, quivers/thrown and 2-handed weapons. Only 1 of the back-slots could be used for polearm, or a polearm could use both the back-slots. ... or there could be some skill to make the different slots more useful or some such (with high skill you could have a 2-hander at each side and 2 polearms over your back :razz:) (if this made it so that not everyone had a slot that could take (for example) a polearm, there could be another slot for the weapon you'd be wielding when entering combat, that you'd throw away when changing it for something else).
I suggested a similar system a while back and still support it as fiercely as I'm able.
 
Back to the topic at hand: I think sheaths would add to the realilism of the game. Another thing would be able to hang your shield from the side of your horse, as many medieval knights did. When you get off your horse (or fall), the shield would in some fashion be automatically slung around your back. Im sorta just throwin out ideas I think would be cool, so feel free to comment.
 
Yes very much, one of the things i expect from this game is having my arsenal visible and realistic - not for the realism, but for the utter coolness. (ala gothic)

and Volkier, please refrain from mentioning horses reproduction system, as it leads to obvious jealousy :smile:
 
To avoid causing Volkier any undue testicular consideration... you could use the proper term which is -scabbard-.
 
Maybe in the future, the amount of weapons you can hold could be controlled by what locations on your body aren't filled up. This directly relates to the scabbards issue, because it helps determine where they will be rendered.

Held in Hands: Only one polearm, or bow, or set of axes/javelins. Weapons that must be held in hands are the default weapons drawn when starting combat. Switching weapons drops this weapon for the rest of the battle (but doesn't actually make you lose it) Also, if armagan ever implements the ability to pick things up from the ground, then you could return to pick up your dropped polearm.

Strapped to Back: One two handed weapon or heavy crossbow. A shield may also be worn on the back over this weapon.

Worn at Side: One handed hafted weapons, or one-handed swords, or a light crossbow can be worn at one side, and a quiver may be worn at the other side.

Across Chest: One handed swords can be worn in knightly fashion, across the chest.

In this way, a character could actually carry a lance, great sword, longsword and arming sword into a fight, but would have to ditch the lance when its time to swordfight.

Weapons can also be attached to the horse for greater versatility. A horse can hold two of any of the weapons that can be attached to the side or back.

This is pretty in depth, but is at least precise. I mean, if you are going to do it, you might as well go all the way. Another cool thing about this mode is how cool it would look to see a javelineer holding a crop of javelins in his left hand, or an axe thrower holding a bunch of axes in his left hand. I'm sure these could be held even while a shield is worn.

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Volkier said:
By the way.. A male horse's testicles are officially called 'sheath' as well...
Sorry for pointing it out.. just kinda keep getting the wrong impression every time I look at this thread...

Sorry, but yer wrong. the 'sheath' - which is related to not just horses - is
where the male 3rd leg is protected in. on humans, it'd be called something
else. *ahems*

back OT, scabbards are a good idea. I just can't help but laugh each time
a weapon is drawn from no-where... and which caused Morrowind itself
to suffer greatly...
 
I think scabbards is a good idea too. I'm also in favour of an extra weapons slot. After all it is theoretically possible to have a sword in a scabbard, an axe on your back, a bow in bowcase suspended from the belt and a quiver of arrows as well.

Bowcases, yes let's have bowcases as well as quivers, something like this:
BowRus17thc.jpg

turkish_bowcase_16th_C.jpg


This could go on forever, I've just had another thought, what about carrying shileds on your back when you're not using them? Like this.
 
Yeah, something to show that the weapon is there. even just the sword tacked onto the side of the character, not in a sheath, but passed through a loop, with the blade still showing. It would add to the realism of the game, and would also be useful in identifying the weapons of archers.

Hey, is that Micheal Jackson in that Samuri suit?
 
thesneakster said:
Yeah, something to show that the weapon is there. even just the sword tacked onto the side of the character, not in a sheath, but passed through a loop, with the blade still showing. It would add to the realism of the game, and would also be useful in identifying the weapons of archers.

Hey, is that Micheal Jackson in that Samuri suit?

:lol:

That's not a samurai suit, it's a 15th century Turkish mail-&-plate armour, the weapons and horse-armour are also Turkish from the same period. :smile:

I just added that picture to show how the sword and bowcase are suspended from the belt. the quiver is hanging on the opposite side, and the shield is on the rider's back.

turkish_quiver_16th_C.jpg
 
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