Sea Raider throwing axe situation

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Hello dudes! I'm only playing the "trial version" kindda, and yes, i did register to tell this! But i will certainly reply to other threads if i have a good answer to it. Anyways.


Me and my friend had gotten the sight on sea raiders that they were sure death, and we did only face them when we had nothing else than dieing to do. My friend entered battle with an underarmed Borcha as the only backup.

He takes his spear and rides over a bunch of sea raiders, on his way to couch one of them. He was so close to getting to the sea raider that his head did nearly hit my screen. Suddenly a throwing axe comes flying, hits him in the side he falls off the horse and is hanging on the leg of his horse while reading "ironstorm knocked unconsious by sea raider". He is able to enter battle again, and he did (he HAD the orpotunnity to leave battle, but you need to die once in a while you know).

Allright, Borcha allready out of the show, and one sea raider, he flees from the rest of the sea raiders (only 11 vs. 1.. wtf...) with his bow aiming backwards. He shoots an arrow, don't hit, get another one and suddenly, an axe again comes flying and hits him (this time in belly) he falls off horse and gets knocked unconcious ending the battle.

Now, you may not see the reason for this to getting posted on the forum, but the first time it looked really funny. About to spike a viking looking guy on 300 mph (0_o) he suddenly gets hit by a throwing axe and falls off, i flipped in laugh. And it was also funny that the same thing happened two times in a row.


Hope you guys got a good community :grin:

Btw M&B rocks, cant wait to get full version!
 
Yes, they are pure evil. It seems every single one of them has throwing weapons or longbows and they are well armored. They were my nightmares until I become experienced with the game after some time. You will have to develop/figure out ways to defeat them. It's the part of fun.
 
Usually I only mess with them when I have bunch of archers myself. Or when you HAVE to take them alone, try a good fast and agile horse, jousling lance and a good shield. Being as armoured as possible helps as well. THen just ride at them with the shield up and about a second before you are about to ride over him stop shielding so that lance moves back down in ready position. About 60% of the time no one will hit you in that split second that you're open and you'll knock him out.
 
I find a good shield and a SoW ob foot to be the best combination. Horses get crippled.
Approach them with a shield up and, once they draw melee weapons, switch to the Sword of War and hack the bastards.
 
loolll !!!

Thanks ufo,
I laugh a lot reading your post.

M&B give a lot of Epic & Tragic memories,
some stronger emotional experience,
it is.

:eek:)
 
yehrom said:
some stronger emotional experience,
it is.
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When AI, after you are knocked down, starts to pull off your fingernails, peel off your skin, gang-rape you and cripple every horse in your inventory, emotional experience will be even stronger :roll:
 
Throwing axes are my favorite weapon in the game. I can't count the number of times I've lost my horse only to pull out my throwing axes and place one between the eyes of an oncoming knight, steal his mate, and lance the rest of his team to death.

SOmetimes I'll lose 3 or 4 horses in a single round, and those throwing axes always manage to get me another one.
 
the throwing axe really does wonders really. Especially if ur lowleved. I wiped a group of dark (stalkers?or knights? or hunters?) with them alone. I started up on a high mountain peak from which it was pure pleasure to jugle the baddest darkknights to death. After they were done, their little helpers werent that much of a problem any longer. Unfortunately, right after the battle, my charackter got too experienced/smart to continue adventuring for free. :cry:
 
Sea rader's throwing skill is very good.

I remember once, they threw a javelin miles away, I was riding a corsair as I was watching the javelin. It flew very slowly and I didn't very much alermed. about full two second later (I have been watching it all that time), it hit my horse. They are not human.
 
It's when you're standing on a hill overlooking the battle, your archers lined up behind you, foot soldiers to the fore, and you sea the dark line of sea raiders approaching, getting slowly closer, then they all stop as one man, the right arms go back and you just know you're going to lose at least two men in the opening volley. And another three closing to combat. Horrible.
 
The best way to defeat sea raiders is simply to drain them of their axes and javelins, then there are 'only' archers left to worry about (but they are pretty nasty still).

The best way is to fight on a slightly hilly map and then hide behind the crest, then pop up now and then (but be sure you see them aim and throw). Another way is a fast and agile horse you weave about (good on flat maps), that can help your guys pick the sea raiders off with their ranged weapons.

Personally I find that throwing axes are more accurate... Strange really, but I hit much more with them compared jarids or javelins. Perhaps it is because the trajectory is more more clear, and perhaps the hitbox for the axe is larger (it does fill more space and they do at times stick into enemies at odd angles)?
 
Tarrak said:
The best way to defeat sea raiders is simply to drain them of their axes and javelins, then there are 'only' archers left to worry about (but they are pretty nasty still).
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wouldnt it just be easier to.....well i'll just say what i do.
I just grab a shield (ha) and have my sword of war tucked away, ride up to the sea raiders who by this time are pelting axes and javelins at me. but as you get closer most of them do away with them to melee your ass, which is when its off the horse for the easy killings, some sword of war action.

but i do agree, sea raiders are *****es...but only because of their damn throwing capabilities :mad: once thats gone tho, close combat its all pretty much the same 1-2 hits = dead.
 
Meh, I quite often go after them simply because they don't have horses. I'm so sick of chasing after a group of mounted archers on foot. :evil:
 
togetherrising said:
Tarrak said:
The best way to defeat sea raiders is simply to drain them of their axes and javelins, then there are 'only' archers left to worry about (but they are pretty nasty still).
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wouldnt it just be easier to.....well i'll just say what i do.
I just grab a shield (ha) and have my sword of war tucked away, ride up to the sea raiders who by this time are pelting axes and javelins at me. but as you get closer most of them do away with them to melee your ass, which is when its off the horse for the easy killings, some sword of war action.
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See that's the point now... Often they can beat up a good shield if you are just a tiny bit careless, besides with teh new AI archers and similar now retreat from a melee (where they are not engaged). Sea Raiders behave similarly.
You run in, two-three engage you, the rest fan out with their bows, axes and javelins...

Result: 1 x uncontious player
 
I'll tell you a story.

Once upon a time there was a kid playing Dune II, and he reckoned he had a strategy figured out for destroying nasty missile turrets. Destroy them from *just outside* their range using mobile missile launchers.

Thing was, it usually caused more casualties (and took forever) just getting the mobile missile launchers into position. So the kid tried a new tactic - getting a bunch of big, nasty, heavy-armoured Siege Tanks and just roll up next to the missile turrets and batter them out of existence.

(all together now... aaaawww!)

So, anyway, as soon as you get yourself a bunch of reasonably tough horse-riding minions, the perfect way to deal with Sea Raiders is simply to steamroller into them (shield raised), ride them down, and by the time you've turned round the rest of your cavalry will be in among them, forcing them to drop their bows and axes and pull out their melee weapons. At which point the problem disappears, because cavalry can generally stomp even tough infantry like the Raiders out of existence.

:grin: Well, it works for me. :smile:
 
rest of your cavalry will be in among them, forcing them to drop their bows and axes and pull out their melee weapons.
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Well, if you have lots of cavalry, of course you can beat them with a few casualties. The challenge (and fun) is to beat them alone. And with the new ranged AI, even if you (alone) approach shield raised, only a few of them switch to melee, most of them continue to use ranged weapons. And I don't advice to use archers against them, those demons killed a lot of my Vaegir marksman.
So the kid tried a new tactic - getting a bunch of big, nasty, heavy-armoured Siege Tanks and just roll up next to the missile turrets and batter them out of existence
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I guess you are talking about the devastator tanks of Harkonnen. What a game it was, I have played it so many hours without break. When my father eventually saw my completely red eyes, he took my Amiga for a few days as a punishment. They were good old Amiga days.
 
John Johnston said:
I'll tell you a story.

Once upon a time there was a kid playing Dune II, and he reckoned he had a strategy figured out for destroying nasty missile turrets. Destroy them from *just outside* their range using mobile missile launchers.

Thing was, it usually caused more casualties (and took forever) just getting the mobile missile launchers into position. So the kid tried a new tactic - getting a bunch of big, nasty, heavy-armoured Siege Tanks and just roll up next to the missile turrets and batter them out of existence.
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Then you do something wrong. The missile tanks can outrange the turrets, but only if you move them slowly towards the turret, one step at the time until they start to fire. Just place some tanks nearby to deal with that pesky junk they might send out at you.
 
I'd be interested to hear solo tactics too. I also find that a mounted charge with lots of armour & shield usually works wonders - that's with my first character, a typical knight type with some strong troops - and then call for assistance if I get into danger or I just want to mop up the last few quickly.

But I am also using a second character - a loner, with no shield, and no armour except a cool pair of boots (not wise, I know, but I'm role-playing here :wink: ). She uses bow, thrown weapons and a scythe and rides a fast courser. And she currently avoids Sea Raiders like the plague :roll: Any suggestions?
 
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