phoenix[illusion] said:
also ian heath's picture, which can be fine (i know that nikebg doesn't like them cause of what e did to bulgarians, but he made very good serbians, especially number 124 and 125, others need commentary)
I don't really remember what he had for the Bulgarians (haven't checked his books in quite awhile), but what I don't like in the pictures in his book is more about their general style. I don't know what it is, but I don't quite like them (though I admit they're useful as reference nonetheless).
F.F.C._fritz said:
@ NikeBG, I forgot to answer you: what I need the most for Bulgarians are primary sources (archaeology, frescoes, whatev) to work on.
I'm not particularly familiar with the archaeology of this period, so I can only post a few things I've seen elsewhere.
-
Mace heads (as I said, maces were becoming quite popular in this time)
-
Swords and sabre
- Helms - Asenovgrad, 12-14 c. (
1,
2,
3,
4); Novakovo, 12-14 c. (
1,
2,
3); Pernik, 12 c. (archaic by now,
1,
2,
3); Uzana, Gabrovo, 13 c. (possibly Tatar,
1); Svishtov, 13-14 c. (possibly Tatar,
1,
2).
- Some things from
David Nicolle, most notably the ones marked as
93 here, based on the 1259 frescoes from the Boyana Church
- Frescoes from the aforementioned Boyana Church (1259 layer) -
1,
2,
3,
4,
5 (note that this is
scale, not mail, while f.e.
this is probably lamellar),
6,
7 (royal clothes),
8 (note that the chest-band might be a Heraklean knot, indicating an officer),
9 (sevastokrator Kaloyan and
his wife, donors to the 1259 church reconstruction, high nobility),
10 (
Tsar Konstantin Tih Asen and
his wife),
11 (ship),
12 (for the peasant clothing - tunics and hoses/pants),
13 (respectively, higher ranked people (3 strategoi in this case) with "robes" (can't remember the Greek name - chlamidae?), including
a kid with a funny hat).
- Frescoes from the church in Berende (13-14c) -
1 (warrior saints),
2 (and
close-up),
3 (and
close-up)
- Here's also a general collection of
Balkan frescoes (from Bulgaria and Serbia), mostly 12-15 c.
And as a side-note:
Noble and royal civilian clothing, respectively
peasants/townsmen and
noble/royal ones.
Btw, if you need a specific event in the 1230-1260 area, the most famous for Bulgaria would be the aforementioned 1230
battle of Klokotnitsa - the most fortuitous battle in Bulgarian medieval history. Its most famous motiff is when Tsar Ioan Asen II speared the treaty, which was broken by the Epirote emperor, and carried it into the battle as his banner: depictions
1_1,
1_2,
2,
3,
4,
5 (here's the whole
comic-book, btw),
6 - as you can see, it's quite a popular image...
