[Scenario Game] Defense of States Riverbank

[toonknight]

Scenario
Laurian commence Invasion against Imperial States and send a Large Army. Laurian have prepared a Boat for Amphibious Assault on the Other side of the Riverbank.
States have placed a 3 Cannon at the River's Defense and 1 on Bridge Defense.
Situation
States "I've seen my comrades have dug a trench at the Riverbank. I've seen a Large Camps of Laurian Invaders"
                                                                Ludwig Revalz, States Guard of 1st River Guard
Laurian "I am march with 8000-men strong Army from Nibelheim to Chalbek Castle and now here at Western                       
            River. We are eager to set our foot on that Riverbank and fight against those Nationalists"
                                            Albrinco Espada, Laurian Rodelero of 5th Laurian Calradia Army
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[Charidemus]

States. They will blast the laurians before the even set foot on their side of the bank.

 

[toonknight]

States. They will blast the laurians before the even set foot on their side of the bank.

Blasted 8000 Laurians? with 4 Cannons?

 

[Charidemus]

States. They will blast the laurians before the even set foot on their side of the bank.

Blasted 8000 Laurians? with 4 Cannons?

and with guns, of course

 

[toonknight]

States. They will blast the laurians before the even set foot on their side of the bank.

Blasted 8000 Laurians? with 4 Cannons?

and with guns, of course

But look at a Size between States and Laurians. May be Laurian will achieve Pyrrhic Victory.

 

[Charidemus]

States. They will blast the laurians before the even set foot on their side of the bank.

Blasted 8000 Laurians? with 4 Cannons?

and with guns, of course

But look at a Size between States and Laurians. May be Laurian will achieve Pyrrhic Victory.

yes, but will there be more state reinforcements to finish off the very few victorious laurians?
maybe not, but the states could bomb the bridge to stop the land foot soldiers or cavalry getting across, and then just focus on the ships

 

[Jackamo]

Pssh The Laurian Army will be destroyed.

 

[toonknight]

This is my Battleplan for Laurians.
First move some troops to secure the bridge and overwhelm States Bridge Trenches and capture it.
Second move one troop to reinfroce at recently captured trench. Commence Amphibous Assault and use Troops at Bridge Trench to flank enemy position.
Third when capture all Line of Defenses. Focus on attack HQ. Encircle with remaining troops and overwhelm them.

 

[nnnm]

that's very nice ideas, but it's possible to make cannons and ships work really in the battlefield ??????/

 

[iamahorse]

that's very nice ideas, but it's possible to make cannons and ships work really in the battlefield ??????/

He is not suggesting that they be implemented; simply giving us a fictional scenario and we are to use our knowlege of each army's strengths (gleamed from playing this wonderful Mod) to determine the victor and what strategies are employed.
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Personally I go for the Laurians.
My strategy would be the following:
First I would send out my own boats of Laurian Gunners (yes, they exist) to lay down return fire on those State-Goons. Granted I know this will kill very few people but 1) We are storming a beach and we will not have the time to stand and shoot once my army lands, thus it is better to pepper the army to provide some sembalance of cover and 2) The States are trained to use guns far better than the Laurians and the Laurian strength with their guns lies in the fact that most of their gunners are mounted; as we will not have the chance to use that much cavalry I would rather expend my guns providing cover.

From there I would move the infantry (heavy and light) behind this screen, praying to the God that the Laurians worship that the 4 cannons would be wildly inaccurate (remember, people, the time setting for these guns also had impossibly unwieldy cannons!) and hit the water and not my boats.

Once landed I would have the heavier infantry change the trenches whilst the Gunners with ammunition left would continue to lay down fire. After the heavy infantry makes their way into the trenches I would follow up with the lighter, mobile infantry in some sort of out-manoeuvring manoeuvre, attempting to trap the front three trenches and slaughter them (and remember, the cannons, if they fired into the trenches, would also be firing into their own men  ). From there? Take the cannons as swiftly as possible, and by time this has happened I should have my cavalry across (read: Horses are a ***** to put on boats, keep calm, and move across water then unload them.) and the cavalry would serve to clear out what is left of the State's army!


Hope you found reading this as fun as I found writing it.

 

[flamemast321]

States. I would blow up the bridge first, then focus all of the cannon fire on the boats. The states troops should be able to kill most of the Laurian troops before they reach the shore.

 

[toonknight]

States. I would blow up the bridge first, then focus all of the cannon fire on the boats. The states troops should be able to kill most of the Laurian troops before they reach the shore.

Sounds likes D-Day. But without MG-42 and Shingle.

 

[spurious]

This is probably one of the worst positions to launch an offensive on, and a frontal assault here would depleate the strength of my force so much that further conquest would be almost impossible. I'd be lucky to burn a few villages before State re-enforcements were drawn up and my army surrounded.

Commanding as the Laurians, and faced with such a task, I'd wait till late afternoon and start withdrawing troops away from the area, to hopefully better terrain, feigning a full withdrawal hopefully to attempt to draw the State troops from their defensive positions and across the bridge, where they'd be massacred by a superior force.
I'd also be sending scouts to find a better place to cross the river, away from the displayed battleground. Hopefully within a half dozen miles theres another bridge or ford. If found, the troops that I'd be withdrawing would instead be separated off to take that point and force their way around into a flanking maneuver. Most of my cavalry would be with this force. A full half of my army would remain at the bridge to hold against the State should they attempt to attack whilst my forces are split. To help against this I'd be ordering trench lines and earthworks of my own to be constructed with all possible speed.

Should another suitable crossing thats less well guarded fail to be located within a reasonable area (also taking note that the State are hauling cannon with them and thats going to slow the progress of their army slightly if they were to re-deploy, unless they abandoned them) I'd try every cunning thing possible to weaken their position. Sappers sneaking across at night to damage their defenses, attempt assassinations of important commanders to sap their morale, using as much propaganda as possible too. Sending envoys to negotiate, attempt to bribe their mercenaries, and even hold out in a form of siege if it were practical, hopefully outlasting their supplies (and praying that the weather ruins their powder and floods their trenches ¬_¬) so they're forced to withdraw without even getting to give battle.

With this one, I'd also be sending groups of my cavalry further afield to loot and burn anything possible to draw troops off to attempt to protect their nearby villages and trade routes, and hopefully even further weaken their morale (sending envoys and spreading propaganda promising that the raiding will cease should they withdraw) so perhaps forces would desert seeing that to hold there would be pointless as its only holding a part of my army in check rather than defeating me.     

 

[Servitor]

that's very nice ideas, but it's possible to make cannons and ships work really in the battlefield ??????/

It seems to be very possible. I believe the western mode already got something like it.  (NOT SURE) And with nice scriting and modeling you can do miracles. Still, M&B Ain't designed for it and thus it will be inefficient to try it.

 

[Jackamo]

So What if they break through? They're going to siege L'Renouille? -Laughs Out Loud-

 

[toonknight]

I think in States-Laurian War
Laurian may send a Fleets to assault the States Shore. after they break this. They should go to Lorraine than L'renouille.
To secure all Western River Bank and States Forces in L'renouile will not able to escape unless they plan to retake Riverbank and fortify it.

 

[spurious]

I think in States-Laurian War
Laurian may send a Fleets to assault the States Shore. after they break this. They should go to Lorraine than L'renouille.
To secure all Western River Bank and States Forces in L'renouile will not able to escape unless they plan to retake Riverbank and fortify it.

This would probably be better than trying to force and entry to the territory via the bridges, and theres not that many strongholds on the coast. Drawing out the State forces for battle nearer the coast would probably prove to be more successful, especially if a force is kept threatening a crossing near the main bridges so that they'll be reluctant to devote their full army to the coastal area defense.

 

[Jackamo]

Just like the nords..Being gunned down before they can even reach the city.

 

[spurious]

Just like the nords..Being gunned down before they can even reach the city.

Except the Nords didn't have the tech to bring their own cannon, unlike the Laurians 

 

[Jackamo]

Are you kidding me? The Laurians cant do **** to the Imperial state, Bring a cannon my ass..

Are you telling me those long stick wielding noobs developed firearms? Noob >_>