[S] Pike and Blade 3.5: Riders on the Storm!

[galderkin]

A New Diplomacy came out today

 

[Mno]

A New Diplomacy came out today

And is the changelog worth the update + time?

 

[Kogara]

隐藏

2.8

    * battle continuation and free death cam


2.7.2

    * moved kingdom culture options to chancellor
    * guards at court according to kingdom culture
    * npc patrols will be removed if no town is left
    * option to disable horse speed feature
    * fix for clothes issues regarding chamberlain, constable and chancellor
    * fix for wrong autoloot item count
    * added option to chamberlain to distribute autoloot items
    * french translation by Akmar Nibelung
    * minor improvements and bugfixes

DP Change log in spoiler. Will update and release a merge within the hour.

@Mno: I believe you are referring to when I said something about Diplomacy NPC's. I was referring to the Chamberlain, Chancellor, etc. Prior to this merge and, more accurately, Tokashi's fixed files, there was a problem that occurred when merging. Basically, all those aforementioned "NPC's" were showing up as Rhodok troops, and/or we'd end up with a Chamberlain as a hero in our party.

"Tokashi's fix" was released, fixing the problem. Aeon, the creator of the P&B mod, had previously tried this, and the upgrade paths got messed up, meaning, that, for example, a Swadian Recruit might end up upgrading to a Rhodok footmen, or something like that.  We knew what had to be done to fix this, but neither myself, nor Aeon, had time to do it. Enter Tokashi, who fixed said files, and handed them over so I could merge them and upload a "proper" merge.

As for 1.127 changes, my comments were referring to the fact that I have made sure that all changes that may or may not have been done to the party_templates.txt, troops.txt, and item_kinds.txt, due to patches, have been applied. That does NOT apply to troops that are only in Native. For example, the Khergits and Mamelukes are changed completely by this mod, so any "stat changes" made in the patches, do not apply. In-fact, Mamelukes aren't even called Mamelukes in P&B lol. Basically, any changes to the troops would have to come from Aeon, as he sees fit. Currently though, he's on a bit of a hiatus.

Sorry for the length of this, I hope this clears some things up. Short version: My merges are bug free, as far as the merging goes, and are supported both by the community, and the creators of P&B and probably Waithi, as he has dropped by and said things about the merge and the like.

As I said at the beginning, the merge will be out within the hour. (I hope)

Anti-confusion-edit: To be clear, all changes to all files from patches are applied, accept for things related to native troops. 

Edit-of-awesome: HELL YES to the addition of battle continuation!!!

 

[Kogara]

DP/P&B Merge v2.8: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9IFX9A61

隐藏

2.8

    * battle continuation and free death cam


2.7.2

    * moved kingdom culture options to chancellor
    * guards at court according to kingdom culture
    * npc patrols will be removed if no town is left
    * option to disable horse speed feature
    * fix for clothes issues regarding chamberlain, constable and chancellor
    * fix for wrong autoloot item count
    * added option to chamberlain to distribute autoloot items
    * french translation by Akmar Nibelung
    * minor improvements and bugfixes

Change log in spoiler.

As always, enjoy.

Note: Due to the amount of changes made to Diplomacy, I cannot guarantee that saves from 2.7.1 will work. In-fact, I'm almost certain that they will fail.    Its up to you if you want to stick with 2.7.1 because of this. Although, the battle continuation is probably enough to make any of you jump on board  . As for myself, I've been playing the original M&B since beta .700, so I'm use to starting over lol.

 

[Tokashi]

Diplomacy 2.8 made me wet my pants, since I started to play with the battle continuation it made sieges a lot more fun for me because I used to die quick because I try to rush in and kill archers and with Pike and Blade I used to get pwned hard but after it did not  work anymore it sucked hard to play again... NOW I CAN START AGAIN!! WHOOHOO.

I am just going to import my character level or should I start completely from scratch ... hmmmm

 

[Kogara]

I know, right? I plan to be on it more now, just because I don't have to worry about dying in quite the same fashion. Like I hated fighting Khergits because getting killed by a random storm of arrows, or even worse, losing a conch lance duel near the beginning, would mean all my troops would have to suddenly fall back. It can get really annoying, especially in sieges, like you said. 

I might start from scratch myself, because I kinda tweaked my last character to be a bit too powerful on import >.>.....

 

[Tokashi]

lol same, my last character was like lvl 46. I was like the heroes in the american movies

btw nice message Kogara in the new merge file, thanks for keeping this AWESOME mod a live without your dedication our M&B Warband + Diplomacy experience would be just not AWESOME anymore...hope it makes a bit more sense ... 

 

[tupadre]

Thanks a lot Kogara,
Can't wait to get home and try this

DP/P&B Merge v2.8: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9IFX9A61

隐藏

2.8

    * battle continuation and free death cam


2.7.2

    * moved kingdom culture options to chancellor
    * guards at court according to kingdom culture
    * npc patrols will be removed if no town is left
    * option to disable horse speed feature
    * fix for clothes issues regarding chamberlain, constable and chancellor
    * fix for wrong autoloot item count
    * added option to chamberlain to distribute autoloot items
    * french translation by Akmar Nibelung
    * minor improvements and bugfixes

Change log in spoiler.

As always, enjoy.

Note: Due to the amount of changes made to Diplomacy, I cannot guarantee that saves from 2.7.1 will work. In-fact, I'm almost certain that they will fail.    Its up to you if you want to stick with 2.7.1 because of this. Although, the battle continuation is probably enough to make any of you jump on board  . As for myself, I've been playing the original M&B since beta .700, so I'm use to starting over lol.

 

[Kogara]

lol same, my last character was like lvl 46. I was like the heroes in the american movies

btw nice message Kogara in the new merge file, thanks for keeping this AWESOME mod a live without your dedication our M&B Warband + Diplomacy experience would be just not AWESOME anymore...hope it makes a bit more sense ... 

Lol, thanks  .

I kept mine at lvl 1 to start with, but gave him super skills, and a slight tweak of the stats. Like 5 on all skills, just so it wasn't completely stupid, and I started him out with like 18 str and agi, as well as high int. I've done the high level craziness before so I thought this would be a nice toned down version lol, but it was still a bit too much in some ways.

@Tupadre: No problem, hope you enjoy it. And kudos for keeping the post alive by quoting the link

 

[Captain_Octavius]

I don't know if it's just my connection/computer, but the download of the 2.8 merge doesn't complete. It gets stuck after a few seconds, and it looks like the connection with MegaUpload is broken or something like that.

Anyone else with the same problem?


EDIT: Never mind, downloaded it on my laptop and it was fine. Very suspicious, I think something is wrong with this PC.

 

[spaceoden]

Hey I'm playing with your latest diplo merge, and the kidnapped girl quest seems to be broken. I can't finish the quest once I've brought the girl home, she won't leave my party. I suspect this may be caused by editing the troops, or by Tokashi's troop fix (the girl is a troop after all).

 

[Mno]

Anti-confusion-edit: To be clear, all changes to all files from patches are applied, accept for things related to native troops. 

This was all I needed to know ^^

Thanks a lot for all the trouble + info, community thanks you

 

[Tokashi]

Hey I'm playing with your latest diplo merge, and the kidnapped girl quest seems to be broken. I can't finish the quest once I've brought the girl home, she won't leave my party. I suspect this may be caused by editing the troops, or by Tokashi's troop fix (the girl is a troop after all).

Changes made in the troop.txt will not affect the transfer of troops from your party to the quest giver. That is part of the scripts or scripts for the quests.

The changes I have made in the troop.txt was in the upgrade path of the troops, basically I have just redirected the upgrade path of the troops to the correct ones and fixed the party_template.txt file to select the correct troops.

Pike and Blade cannot change how quests act, only thing that it might mess up is the type of troop spawning for the quests and so far as I can remember everything is spawning correctly.

 

[Kogara]

@Spaceoden: As Tokashi said, his files would have nothing to do with that. Neither would this merge, at least not on my end, as the only files I have to touch are completely unrelated to quests. Now, if you said "The Kidnapped girl looks like a swadian soldier!" that would be another story lol.

The only possibilities that I can think of right now is

A) Something happened with Diplomacy, but we'd probably see a hotfix by now if that was the case.

B) Something odd happened with your files, in which case a fresh install (of the merge) or a fresh set of .txt files at the very least, should cure your problem.

C) you're using an outdated version of TweakMB and it messed things up in your text files, OR, you are using the current version, and somethings wrong with a tweak. As for the latter, see A, and either way, see B. 

Edit: No problem Mno, happy to help.

 

[Kogara]

隐藏

DP/P&B Merge v2.8: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9IFX9A61

As always, enjoy.

Note: Due to the amount of changes made to Diplomacy, I cannot guarantee that saves from 2.7.1 will work. In-fact, I'm almost certain that they will fail.    Its up to you if you want to stick with 2.7.1 because of this. Although, the battle continuation is probably enough to make any of you jump on board  . As for myself, I've been playing the original M&B since beta .700, so I'm use to starting over lol.

Re-post of merge link in spoiler!     

Also, see change log here:

隐藏

2.8

    * battle continuation and free death cam


2.7.2

    * moved kingdom culture options to chancellor
    * guards at court according to kingdom culture
    * npc patrols will be removed if no town is left
    * option to disable horse speed feature
    * fix for clothes issues regarding chamberlain, constable and chancellor
    * fix for wrong autoloot item count
    * added option to chamberlain to distribute autoloot items
    * french translation by Akmar Nibelung
    * minor improvements and bugfixes

 

[Tokashi]

It is really amazing how different each new game is.

Swadia got their asses handed to them against the Nords in my last game, now Nords are getting ripped apart, Swadia and Vaegir is ramming them, Nords lost all their maintowns.

40 days later and Nords got Tihr and Sargoth back from Swadia and Sarranid is busy kicking Swadia's ass now, half of Swadia is controlled by Sarranids.

Rhodoks is still fighting over the same castles for the past 100 days now, Almerra, Jamiche and Weyyah against Sarranid.

Khergit has not lost anything yet, Vaegirs is too strong for them and I have a feeling that they will start moving over to Khergit lands anytime soon.

I am going to stay as a Vassal for the Vaegirs, starting a good relationship with a family and see if I can take over the kingdom with Persuasion etc.

In my last game I started my own kingdom very early in the game and I took over the whole Swadia lands ( their armies were destroyed by the Nords ) , it was really easy for me to take their lands.

 

[spaceoden]

@Spaceoden: As Tokashi said, his files would have nothing to do with that. Neither would this merge, at least not on my end, as the only files I have to touch are completely unrelated to quests. Now, if you said "The Kidnapped girl looks like a swadian soldier!" that would be another story lol.

The only possibilities that I can think of right now is

A) Something happened with Diplomacy, but we'd probably see a hotfix by now if that was the case.

B) Something odd happened with your files, in which case a fresh install (of the merge) or a fresh set of .txt files at the very least, should cure your problem.

C) you're using an outdated version of TweakMB and it messed things up in your text files, OR, you are using the current version, and somethings wrong with a tweak. As for the latter, see A, and either way, see B. 

Edit: No problem Mno, happy to help.

Yup, I did use Tweakmb. I made sure to use a compatible version, but i guess it must be a bug. Thanks

 

[tanelorn]

Using latest PnB + Diplo merge and Diplo 2.8. Seems fine, but all the shields are transparent!!! I assume it's a heraldry thing. I started a new game so I don't have heraldry yet. Can't say wether vassals shields are ok, as right not I'm only fighting bandits.

Would love to see this fixed tho...

 

[Captain_Octavius]

Using latest PnB + Diplo merge and Diplo 2.8. Seems fine, but all the shields are transparent!!! I assume it's a heraldry thing. I started a new game so I don't have heraldry yet. Can't say wether vassals shields are ok, as right not I'm only fighting bandits.

Would love to see this fixed tho...

I think something went wrong with your installation, because I and others don't have this problem. I saw your post in the Diplomacy forums, so I know you want Polished Landscapes as well, try downloading and installing the following in this order:

1. Diplomacy 2.8, install this first and make sure your Native is a clean Native, because the Diplomacy installer copies your Native module and then edits in all the changes afterwards.

2. Pike&Blade/Dipl.2.8 merge, copy the contents over your clean Diplomacy 2.8 installation.

3. Polished Landscapes-Diplomacy installation, copy the contents over the Diplomacy module.

That should do the trick. Especially step 1, about the clean Native installation, is important. If you made changes to Native before installing Diplomacy, you risk bugs.

 

[tanelorn]

I managed to narrow down the issue specifically to Diplo 2.8 with PnB-Diplo merged.

Here's how you merge P&B and Diplo!

Step 1: Follow all the instructions for installing the Diplomacy mod
Step 2: Download this file: http://rapidshare.com/files/392873196/Merged_PnB_and_Diplo.zip
Step 3: Copy the item_kinds1.txt, party_templates.txt and troops.txt files from the Merged_PnB_and_Diplo.zip file to the Diplomacy mod folder.
Step 4: Play!

After creating a clean install of M&B:W with latest update, I installed Diplo 2.8 only. Everything's fine. Then I put in merged P&B-Diplo, the latest version using the above link. Bam, invisible heraldry.

The improved landscapes mod had no impact.