Rules of LN?

[tomislawus]

Whats the point of rules like "no firing while charging" or "no firing out of formation" while playing line battles?

Is this competitive, clan based, multilayer match or not? Doing whatever you can to win in such a match should not be hindered by some completely arbitrary rules. Unless we are speaking about glitches, bugs or blatantly overpowered moves that everyone despise - which should be covered by certain rules - no additional rules should be enforced.

Introducing "no firing when out of formation" rule in NW is like making a rule about blobbing marines and then killing carriers with them in Starcraft just because the "experience" (infantry shooting down an intergalactic carrier with their rifles?) would be spoiled.

 

[Deofuta]

The rules are in place to give a sense of Napoleonic Combat on a smaller scale. A group of players can still aim for competitive play, without sacrificing what made the era unique. Being competitive isn't just doing anything and everything to win, its about molding a competitive attitude into the shape that the rules of the game give you. Want to be competitive? Train; be the fastest and best regiment to form their line, to give the perfect volley the makes a group charging for you sway and break. Take the ruleset, not as a set of limiters on how you play, but as a series of challenges that asks you to excel in certain ways and with certain skills. And, when facing another group that faces the same challenge, the competitiveness is easy to see. And when you've beaten the challenges, and have broken your opponent, you will feel awesome.

Or I guess you could host your own event with its own rules, its the event makers prerogative.

 

[SeanBeansShako]

You just asked why is there strict rules reguarding a recreation of a 19th century battlefield.

 

[5arge]

Enjoy public play! 

 

[Leberecht Reinhold]

Well.... you can host your own linebattles and have your own rules.

 

[Moogs]

blatantly overpowered moves that everyone despise.

Some would argue that shooting whilst not in formation is "blatantly overpowered". In line battles there are a set of rules that are usually not set by the few but by the masses.
Many people "despise" the use of firing out of formation or whilst charging that's why it is banned from some line battles.

 

[Kator Viridian]

blatantly overpowered moves that everyone despise.

Some would argue that shooting whilst not in formation is "blatantly overpowered". In line battles there are a set of rules that are usually not set by the few but by the masses.
Many people "despise" the use of firing out of formation or whilst charging that's why it is banned from some line battles.

"Many people" being the majority on the night or particular line battles, for example the people attending the saturday line battle (hosted by crusader) are "different" from those attending the sunday (hosted by lance) ... so you have different rules.

 

[jros83]

i only wish more LB event masters would allow for each side to have a certain number allowed to act as "irregulars." other than that, I have no issue with the basic rules you find in most LBs.

 

[Kator Viridian]

i only wish more LB event masters would allow for each side to have a certain number allowed to act as "irregulars." other than that, I have no issue with the basic rules you find in most LBs.

How do you mean by irregulars? might be worth passing onto Crusader for the saturday line battles.

 

[Nordmann]

i only wish more LB event masters would allow for each side to have a certain number allowed to act as "irregulars." other than that, I have no issue with the basic rules you find in most LBs.

How do you mean by irregulars? might be worth passing onto Crusader for the saturday line battles.

I assume he means light infantry in skirmish formation, ahead of the main line. The French in particular were fond of using masses of skirmishers, often to the point where these troops outnumbered the lines themselves!

 

[Kator Viridian]

i only wish more LB event masters would allow for each side to have a certain number allowed to act as "irregulars." other than that, I have no issue with the basic rules you find in most LBs.

How do you mean by irregulars? might be worth passing onto Crusader for the saturday line battles.

I assume he means light infantry in skirmish formation, ahead of the main line. The French in particular were fond of using masses of skirmishers, often to the point where these troops outnumbered the lines themselves!

wednesday line battles has them, pretty fun.

 

[jros83]

yes, that, basically.

nice to hear some LBs are allowing that, I'll keep an eye out.

 

[5arge]

nice to hear some LBs are allowing that, I'll keep an eye out.

I'd be curious to know which line battles DO NOT allow "irregular troops". Every one I know of allows skirmishers.

 

[jros83]

nice to hear some LBs are allowing that, I'll keep an eye out.

I'd be curious to know which line battles DO NOT allow "irregular troops". Every one I know of allows skirmishers.

I've had quite the opposite experience.

 

[Hadji Murat]

This isn't a reply to the original post but a continuation of the discussion.

I don't like that in line battles you can generally scatter and charge whilst holding a shot for the last moment. I think it should be either one or the other, i.e. you take your last shot in formation and then you scatter and charge or you charge in a line and take your last shot together (I'm assuming people would prefer the first one).

I think this would encourage medium range combat instead of the normal sequence of rapidly going from too far to hit to right on top of each other.

What do you guys think?

 

[Hadji Murat]

This isn't a reply to the original post but a continuation of the discussion.

I don't like that in line battles you can generally scatter and charge whilst holding a shot for the last moment. I think it should be either one or the other, i.e. you take your last shot in formation and then you scatter and charge or you charge in a line and take your last shot together (I'm assuming people would prefer the first one).

I think this would encourage medium range combat instead of the normal sequence of rapidly going from too far to hit to right on top of each other.

What do you guys think?

blatantly overpowered moves that everyone despise.

Some would argue that shooting whilst not in formation is "blatantly overpowered". In line battles there are a set of rules that are usually not set by the few but by the masses.
Many people "despise" the use of firing out of formation or whilst charging that's why it is banned from some line battles.

Didn't see this post. I haven't been in any lbs where scatter charging and firing is disallowed from close range. I wish it was the norm to ban it.

 

[5arge]

NA based line battles have rules governing that.

 

[Hadji Murat]

NA based line battles have rules governing that.

What are the arguments for allowing it?

 

[5arge]

NA based line battles have rules governing that.

What are the arguments for allowing it?

We don't allow it... If you fire your musket, you must be in a properly dressed and spaced line. That cuts down on the charge 'n' shoot tactic for the most part.

 

[Hadji Murat]

NA based line battles have rules governing that.

What are the arguments for allowing it?

We don't allow it... If you fire your musket, you must be in a properly dressed and spaced line. That cuts down on the charge 'n' shoot tactic for the most part.

Yes I know, makes perfect sense!
I'm just wondering why it isn't enforced in the line battles that I participate in (EU)