Rider/Horse Hitbox Poll.

[Jhaerik]

In responce to this topic.

http://forums.taleworlds.com/viewtopic.php?t=4628

 

[Nahkuri]

No.

It was stupid in the older versions when I swung my SoW when some bloke rode by, and there was just massive "SSSSHHCLCCLOOSCCRRUUNCCHSSLCHUCSCRRRRUNCH" sound when the both fell dead. It was like the sword forced it's way through the horse cutting it in half lenghtwise + riders legs.

It made me feel like I'm in a public swimming pool of blood and the tracks for fast swimmers are separated by stretching intestines across the pools.

So Maybe in some badass cartoon, but not in this game.

[edit]: Man am I bad with my english today.

 

[Cataphract]

Nahkuri puts it quite well. I vote no.

 

[catsoup]

so do i, no way.

 

[ThVaz]

I put maybe.

I think at least you could hit the horse AND the rider's legs at same time when on foot.
But for arrows/bolts hitting rider and horse at the same time, or killing blows to both (like it was in .632) I would vote no for certain.

 

[Jhaerik]

Hmm, what able the guy on foot with a SoW slashing from the side? Are you seriously telling me that the sword is going to "magically" go through his leg to hit the horse, and not harm him?

How about a glancing blow from a blunt weapon off the horses skull?

Lets not forgot a crouched lance ripping half the horses head away....

Or a very deboweled unarmored man.

I would like to see a smaller overlap that in the pre .7x versions though.

Yeh one death sounds right. Though both should be possible. Also this is only about melee, I agree on the ranged part.


I suggest if you don't want it to happen, learn how to aim.

Ya know, kinda like your asking us melee guys to jump to hit them?

 

[barbaros]

Maybe a bit unrealistic but do not exaggerate please. Isn't it great fun to kill both the horse and rider with one mighty blow?. I like it, Im nearly addicted to it. And I think realism can be sacrified for a little bit if it will add great fun to game.

 

[Nahkuri]

What I thought was, that you must be one hell of a lad with a sword that is so sharp, that it cuts you when you just look at it. I mean, come on. if you hit a horse with a sword below its neck, would it just flow through the horse and the possibly armoured rider like a hot knife through butter?

[edit]: not forgetting that lovely sound.

"SCCSCRRUUNSCSCHHLOORRCSCRRRRUUNCH"

 

[Jhaerik]

And to that I reply...

Do you really think irl, if there were two mounted guys riding past each other at full speed, and one strikes the others horse in the throat with said SoW, a text appears saying "You have dealth 52 damage.", or whatever it actual says, appears, and the horse rides on waiting for the next pass?

 

[Nahkuri]

Maybe a bit unrealistic but do not exaggerate please. Isn't it great fun to kill both the horse and rider with one mighty blow?. I like it, Im nearly addicted to it. And I think realism can be sacrified for a little bit if it will add great fun to game.

Funny. It made me feel sick. I'm not normally the one to complain about violence in games(I actually wish the game was more gory), but this is just plain silly. It's like I'm using a lightsaber or something. Except for that annoying sound.

"SCCSCRRUUNSCSCHHLOORRCSCRRRRUUNCH"

 

[Nahkuri]

And to that I reply...

Do you really think irl, if there were two mounted guys riding past each other at full speed, and one strikes the others horse in the throat with said SoW, a text appears saying "You have dealth 52 damage.", or whatever it actual says, appears, and the horse rides on waiting for the next pass?

No I don't. Good for me, though, that I never suggested such a thing. The horse would die, as it already does and I'm completely happy with it.

 

[Jhaerik]

Actually it doesn't usually drop till you slit it's throat the second or 3rd time at lower levels. And FYI you don't have to state something to make it known if you believe such a thing. You can say the sky is blue. It obviously means you have looked up while outside. Feel free to mount a horse and ride him to my yard. Let me grab an axe and chop away the the horses ribs. Surely I'm not gonna hit your leg......right?


If you take that literally......

 

[Ilex]

I'll quote myself from another post:

No! We don't want this! Understand?

There is a reason people didn't aim at the horse when they could aim at the horse rider. But meh: "Lets aim at the legs so we can kill both".

So no, I don't want multiple hits. If we'd do that we could make all attacks to penetrate everything (yes multiple hits to normal people too [doesn't make much sense does it?]).

 

[svart]

No, no and ...
no.

 

[Jhaerik]

Errm, I never said full damage.....

I'm not saying have some kind of ungodly kill everything in 1 hit combo, but hell at least add a better high attack option.

I can see his face, I can reach is face, but his horse likes to magically block for him.

And magic is bad.

And you were a demon anyway Grif....svart...always more of a Gatsu person myself.

 

[yehrom]

I vote "Maybe",
for the reason I explained in the main thread (referenced under the vote).

In resume,
piercing's and certain swing's damage could hurt the both.

 

[quixotecoyote]

I say no, however attacks on the horse do need to interrupt the charge if they are of sufficent magnitude

 

[Jhaerik]

<grumble> Wish I could edit the poll. Should say If no, give a reason why, other than NO, NO,NO, or I don't want make big splat.

Jesus, kinda like saying your in a car wreck, and only you or the car can be harmed. Cause both just would not be fair.

 

[Jhaerik]

Just a bump....been a very active day.

 

[NikkTheTrick]

<grumble> Wish I could edit the poll. Should say If no, give a reason why, other than NO, NO,NO, or I don't want make big splat.

Jesus, kinda like saying your in a car wreck, and only you or the car can be harmed. Cause both just would not be fair.

Democracy is an evil thing. Live with it

My reason for "no": Once your axe hits the rider, it will waste most of energy going through his armor and flesh (2 cm deep slash still has to penetrate all that armor!) so that by the time the axe reaches the horse, it will be gentle petting