Rhade vs Leonidas Championship duel video
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Orion 说:
Orion is maddening because he plays clean as heck and then just waits for his opportunity. :< I wouldn't win half my duels against him if I didn't block chambers with the highest frequency in NA. I remember yesterday he was like LEFT CHAMBER *block* RIGHT CHAMBER *block* and then I stabbed him in the foot. <.< But every time he killed me he was like DANGAH ZONE in vent. We should have never started discussing Kenny Loggins. Uh, I just woke up to post this.
I have to say, adapting ain't hard.
Looks like a mediocre European fight on Swadia_Duel or Nditions. 
Eiríkr Rauði 说:Looks like a mediocre European fight on Swadia_Duel or Nditions.
It sounds to me like your insinuating that mediocre europeans can beat amazing europeans on a regular basis.
Is that what you're saying?
Shame on you.
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it's somewhat interesting watching these videos. although i do believe that the play in this video is nothing special. in saying that, it seems like it may have been cool to have a bks vs keen match back in the day. keen's a dead clan now though, unfortunately. it was common knowledge that keen was the number 1 clan in australia, but it was also obvious to me that it was only really like that because no one else wanted to be the best. there weren't even brief glimpses of competition in my eyes.
watching this video gives the feeling that the skill cap hasn't quite been reached for people overseas, given how much the people in this video have been getting rep around here. it certainly felt that it had been in australia when i quit. at least for the few of us at the top.
it's not even as if either of the people dueling are even creating opportunities. but maybe that can be attribute to the game's simplicity. i mean, rhade is VISIBLY stunning him, but doesn't swing a second time. several times he loses sight of the enemy for no reason. what is that? the guy backpedalling in every duel is playing like it's pre-patch .127, and he doesn't even attempt to outrange mid rhade's swing.
this is like watching a couple of tgd members (or even most of the regulars on my server circa 6 months ago) going at it. they know the fundamentals, but they aren't pushing any boundaries. yeah, this post wasn't necessary, sorry lads.
ps. i actually kind of regret not making a vid now, in a selfish sort of way.
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watching this video gives the feeling that the skill cap hasn't quite been reached for people overseas, given how much the people in this video have been getting rep around here. it certainly felt that it had been in australia when i quit. at least for the few of us at the top.
it's not even as if either of the people dueling are even creating opportunities. but maybe that can be attribute to the game's simplicity. i mean, rhade is VISIBLY stunning him, but doesn't swing a second time. several times he loses sight of the enemy for no reason. what is that? the guy backpedalling in every duel is playing like it's pre-patch .127, and he doesn't even attempt to outrange mid rhade's swing.
this is like watching a couple of tgd members (or even most of the regulars on my server circa 6 months ago) going at it. they know the fundamentals, but they aren't pushing any boundaries. yeah, this post wasn't necessary, sorry lads.
ps. i actually kind of regret not making a vid now, in a selfish sort of way.
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See, I got the same impression. The video's exceptionally boring to watch, there's like thirty seconds of actual contact being made. But that's the only way to fight Leo. The reason there wasn't very much chambers or fancy footwork or risk taking is because anyone who tried that would have been killed immediately. The skill level was so intense that all they had to play on was the fundamentals, any extra would just result in a quick death.
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Ruthven 说:
I.E: Like Mr. X vs. Rhade. They were respectful of their opponent's tools to the point where X didn't want to risk playing his usual fast-paced chamber game and Rhade didn't want to jump beyond his comfort zone and try to play his reflex-offense game. Something like Rhade vs. Vanidar would be pretty damn interesting.
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yeah, i think the difference is people in australia are actually beyond feinting. everyone can block everything. i am pretty much the australian feinting rep (or was back in beta), and in the end, they were more or less just something to do to occupy yourself between swing-block exchanges. you'd basically never get a kill from a feint, even against the mediocres. i feel like it's kind of pointless me saying this ****, as i don't have video evidence of 'skill', but nonetheless, people from the homeland know what i'm saying, i imagine.
also, i totally get where you're coming from. the duels between thorn and myself were the most dull **** imaginable, but i still feel as if the skill level is not even close in this vid. i mean, the guy's jumping -- that kind of counteracts your point right there in my eyes. i have a habit of comparing these things to myself, and if it's not the same, i dismiss it. it's arrogant as ****, but i know i was the best dueler in aus, and i doubt anyone could seriously say otherwise.
also, i totally get where you're coming from. the duels between thorn and myself were the most dull **** imaginable, but i still feel as if the skill level is not even close in this vid. i mean, the guy's jumping -- that kind of counteracts your point right there in my eyes. i have a habit of comparing these things to myself, and if it's not the same, i dismiss it. it's arrogant as ****, but i know i was the best dueler in aus, and i doubt anyone could seriously say otherwise.
Pretty frustrating hearing these comments.
I've dueled Thorn from KEEN, we're pretty damn even.
There's only ONE way to fight Leo -- a **** load of feints. I hate feinting, but since he never chambers, they're really the only way to go to keep the aggression up; he doesn't swing enough to throw any chamber myself. Furthermore, his style is 100% defensive -- not a lot I can do about that.
I've dueled Thorn from KEEN, we're pretty damn even.
There's only ONE way to fight Leo -- a **** load of feints. I hate feinting, but since he never chambers, they're really the only way to go to keep the aggression up; he doesn't swing enough to throw any chamber myself. Furthermore, his style is 100% defensive -- not a lot I can do about that.
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gh 说:
In Rhade's case, jumping is to prevent a kick on walk-in approach or to force a stun considering they're both using weapons with a 2.8 weight. It's been proven at this point that jumping or holding with a great sword can stun another one. It was his unique solution to dealing with Leo's defensive game within the tournament and the first duel he had shows Rhade doing it a lot more after being kicked. Feinting is the only way to really probe a non-safe reaction out of Leo, as far as we can tell.
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thorn's a good (pretty much the pioneer of everything related to skill in aus) player, but he's not even close to being at his peak any more. he never really plays. did you duel him when he was in the us two years ago? **** has changed quite a lot since then. sucks we never got to duel though rhade, even just for ego's sake. i took it to levels beyond yoda. ask my fans.
edit: more smugness etc
edit: more smugness etc
*ahem* As someone who uses jumping so much that is pretty much a staple of his style, I must say that you sir, are wrong. Jumping allows you to catch opponents who are on the defensive off guard. Jump slashes also usually result in instakills due to the fact that you ALWAYS hit the head if they land. I'll grant that they are risky, and overuse will earn you a stab in the ****. However, Don't just write off jumping like that.
Also I feel that I must repeat, Leo is the most cheese player you will ever fight, and that stab is gay.
Also I feel that I must repeat, Leo is the most cheese player you will ever fight, and that stab is gay.
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i'm basing it on experience. the jump in my experience is a gimmick, and that was exactly my point. but whatever. the guy's just holding s all day, people like that have existed since the beginning, the game used to cater to it even more, back when bads could kick. it's hilarious watching that guy backpedalling, but we've all seen it before. using the word 'defensive' implies he has some sort of other mode/means to killing people. great sword duels~~
mind, based on this video, rhade is the better player. but i never really had an agenda here to begin with.
aaaah,
mind, based on this video, rhade is the better player. but i never really had an agenda here to begin with.
aaaah,
gh 说:
In other news, an old non-NA player attempts to defend his ignorance of stun mechanics by dismissing jumps as "Dat stuff wut newbs do an' ****."
Everyone can agree that jumping for the element of surprise does very little for your play, and puts you out of position and off balance enough that it shouldn't be used in the vast majority of situations. It takes a nuanced understanding of warband to realize that there are in fact opportunities to utilize the jump effectively.
If M and Morii didn't even utilize jump/hold stunning until recently (rest assured that they in fact are taking advantage of it right now), you'll have to forgive me for thinking you didn't either.
What can you expect from an Australian though, really? Warband competition for them probably consists of cavalrymen riding kangaroos and killing people with boomerangs.
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get a grip. you simply have no idea. the only thing i've got to back me up is people from australia, and i doubt any of them aside from old mate papa read this forum anymore. the nuances of warband? i made them. i'll take your ticket as well.
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you play on fastest? that's pretty grim for you folks.
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you play on fastest? that's pretty grim for you folks.
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