Retrieving throwing weapons.

[illyrian]

I think it would be a great idea to allow UNITS to Retrieve their throwing weapons, or arrows. I think that an archer should be able to take his arrow from his dead enemy in order to be able to use it again, which would be great with javelins or throwing axes.

Another Idea i have is regarding javelins. I think that they should be allowed to use as polearms for thrusts as well as throwing, and i think that some polearms should be allowed to be thrown at the enemy as a javelin.

Historically that is how they were used. Please speak up your minds, and manybe bring in some new ideas.

What do you guys think?

 

[powerg8]

Been posted before but I still think it is a good idea.And you should be able to pick up enemys weapons.

 

[Archonsod]

Historically javelins and similar weapons were designed to bend on impact so they couldn't be thrown back.
Looting dead opponents would work though. Perhaps rather than recovering arrows etc you could gain a random amount of arrows whenever you searched a corpse with a quiver?

 

[Destichado]

That is exclusive to Roman pilum, which was designed either to bend or to break at a cheap wooden joint between the spearhead and the shaft.

If you read the Illiad, for instance, people stocked their armouries by picking up thrown javelins and dropped weapons.
The Norse did, the Celts did, the Germans did... even the Romans did when they used actual javelins. They were just clever about those pila.

 

[illyrian]

This is great, and i want to add that julius ceasar made the pilum's iron shaft of soft iron so that it bends on contact. Keep it going fellas.

 

[fak]

Throwing daggers and jarids are made out of steel only, they are less likely to bend or break unless being thrown to rocks or struck hard into trees. So they should be retrievable.

 

[Nathan90]

I think it is a great idea.I hate it when i run out of arrows and have to return to the box(inventory) to get some more. I personally never have a back up wepon if useing a bow so i have more arrows to shoot.

 

[drunedain]

i think you must have the opportunity to take loot from the battlefield if you won, by searching the field for the best pieces of armor and weapons and in a caravan maybe some stockpile, so you won't get some random chosen things.

 

[DaLagga]

i think you must have the opportunity to take loot from the battlefield if you won, by searching the field for the best pieces of armor and weapons and in a caravan maybe some stockpile, so you won't get some random chosen things.

If you could do this, one victory over a group of dark knights would bring in enough gold to last you the entire game. So, even though it may be realistic, i have to vote no. However i still say you should be able to pick up weapons, shields, and ammo off of corpses. But for balance sake, you shouldn't be able to keep them IMO. On morrowind you could find a guy wearing full glass armor or something, exploit the ai to kill him and have a full suit of the best armor in the game at level 1...waaay to cheap.

 

[Ivan Bajlo]

I think it would be a great idea to allow UNITS to Retrieve their throwing weapons, or arrows. I think that an archer should be able to take his arrow from his dead enemy in order to be able to use it again, which would be great with javelins or throwing axes.

What do you guys think?

Not only dead enemy but ones that missed (most of them in fact) from both side.

I believe it was in Battle of Hastings 1066 when Norman arches found themselves running low on arrows simply because Saxons hidden safely behind shield wall had no archers to shot arrows back! It was normal to gather enemies arrows that missed and fire them back.

With little more intelligence archers could become nice threat and good investment in game.

http://www.battle1066.com/battle.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hastings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_warfare

 

[Ryuta]

Yes. That's a good idea. I always looked down on my mis-shot throwing axe and wondered why I couldn't use it.

By the way, even though people emphasise that Pilum bends, its main design concept was to pierce enemy shields, not bend. When the head penetrated the shield, slender shaft will slid through the hole opened by the head and damages people holding the shield. bending is more or less lucky feature, not the main feature.
Though I must agree that they later tried to enhance that quality. Wooden pin was short-lived experiment but untempered (if Roman knew how to make steel) shaft seemd to last throughout, if I remembered correctly.