[Resistance] Strength through Unity: The First Day
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I would have you reveal yourself to me, if we're on the same page on what you mean.Xardob 说:
Ahem, anyways. The current plan basically demands that we trust Ejnomad and Llandy, both with them being resistance members and whatever they claim Xardob and Melter to be. I would be more suspicious if the spies were to know who each other were, because giving Ej and Llandy the reins from the get-go would not be beneficial to anyone if that were the case.
And I am still suspicious to a degree, because there is still a chance that any of them could be lying. However, Llandy's plan, if assumed that both Ej and Llandy are innocent, is sure to present the most likely to succeed team. So I'm in favour of seeing how this goes for now. Interested in seeing whether or not Ejnomad and Xardob will follow through with the plan.
@Hostupaio, is there a possibility for the card owners to lie about who they chose? Let's say Nomad chooses Llandy to show some ID but claims he chose Melter instead, will that fly? Basically, are we to trust their word with the knowledge that you are enforcing the truth, or shall we expect the possibility of a lie?
Xardob that's a bad plan as it wastes a card when we could use the cards to clear two people.
@Goker.
I am more than willing to do Llandy's plan or suggest Xardob also reveal himself to me.
As for the cards I would imagine they would be public knowledge on who you use them on.
@Goker.
I am more than willing to do Llandy's plan or suggest Xardob also reveal himself to me.
As for the cards I would imagine they would be public knowledge on who you use them on.
I thought immediately meant this round, not right away. But fine, I'll choose now.Austupaio 说:@Goker, there is no possibility of that, or at least it would be a rather thin lie, as the card holders will be announcing the player of their choice in a post here.
Preferably soon, as the cards do say "immediately".
I'll confess to Llandy.
*Xardob turns to Llandy, and tears can be seen forming in his eyes*
Llandy, dear, I love you.
Austupaio 说:
There's only one appropriate course of action to take in a situation like this!
HAREM TIME!
Goker 说:
C'mon Goker, you're a moderator, think ahead! There are two "check the alignment of a person" cards in play in this game, and there is a SOME in SOME chance of Twinkle getting one in the next round (I don't math). If he has doubts then if he DOES get one of those cards he can give it to someone he trusts to verify the alignment of either ejnomad or I.
There is also some more to this that I'm not going to say yet because it could tip the scum's hand(s), but I'll go into further detail about why this plan is awesome once the mission is "in progress".
Goker 说:
Planning what you'll do if you get the cards, huh?
@MaHuD
Still waiting for answers to my questions. I'm certain you have reasons for suspecting two of the most active players and one guy who's barely said two words, and I'm just dying to hear them.
Xardob 说:I thought immediately meant this round, not right away. But fine, I'll choose now.
I'll confess to Llandy.
*Xardob turns to Llandy, and tears can be seen forming in his eyes*
Llandy, dear, I love you.
Welcome to the harem, Legolas! You shall be Consort #1, and I convey upon you all the rights and privileges which come with such an esteemed position.
And now that I hope a bit of suspension has built up...... I can confirm that Xardob is, in fact, a good guy. I could tell you his role but since Aust didn't divulge the roles beforehand, it would be pointless. He's basically Legolas though, with slightly less nancing down the pike.
That would be stupid. If my plan works, we won't even NEED to check you, and Goker won't NEED to know the alignment of anybody, because this game could be won by next turn.
If anything, I should have given the 'check alignment' card to Twinkle, as he is the next leader, but meh, he'll get his own cards.
And if my plan doesn't work, there are still cards to be played so yeah, maybe you'll get your wish and somebody WILL check you.
If anything, I should have given the 'check alignment' card to Twinkle, as he is the next leader, but meh, he'll get his own cards.
And if my plan doesn't work, there are still cards to be played so yeah, maybe you'll get your wish and somebody WILL check you.
Fairly sure that the others won't like such a one shot plan. + you are essentially saying that goker, grimmend + me are the spies. And your 'plan' is build around a lot of trust... including trusting Twinkle who as you said has hardly posted. It's a bit hypocritical of you.
MaHuD 说:
I'm saying nothing of the sort. For all I know, ejnomad could come back and say that he's checked Melter who is a spy. Or ej could be a spy and he could lie about an innocent Melter, or could lie about a spy-melter.
Trust my ass. We still have one more "check alignment" card to come into play, plus 2 "Watchful Guard" cards, and a whole bunch of other cards which reveal sabotage/support votes and allow players to assume command if they doubt the suggested team leader. And who those cards are played upon will be determined by the outcome of this mission.
Let's put it this way, if my plan doesn't work, you and the other people you're so quick to assume I believe are spies will be getting those cards to play.
Twinkle has done nothing so far to make me think he's dodgy. Quietness =/= scumminess. Ditto for Grimmend. I will trust a player until I'm given a reason to stop trusting them, either they say something suspicious or I get card-related evidence that they're a spy.
I've noticed however, MaHuD, that you've avoided answering the questions I asked you on the previous page.
Playing for time so you can think up some excuses?
Playing for time so you can think up some excuses?
MaHuD 说:
Fairly sure that everybody who's posted so far, except you, has actually said that given the circumstances the plan is solid.
But plans can change, depending on what ejnomad says about Melter.
ejnomad doesn't even have to check Melter; he could check anybody he wants. It's just that him checking Melter will help me, as the team leader, decide whether Melter gets to be on my team. This is what we call Teamwork.
Apparently the spies don't seem to like it very much.
This is more entertaining to be honest. Making you think you can make a case. :3
You are playing the game by card mechanics and rules...not really hunting. Cards alone won't make a side win, but it is great for a spy to hide in mechanics.
Who is checking nomad? Who checks you? Your plan is not tight at all. If the people that are being revealed to are not checked, they could just play along and sink the ship.
You are playing the game by card mechanics and rules...not really hunting. Cards alone won't make a side win, but it is great for a spy to hide in mechanics.
Who is checking nomad? Who checks you? Your plan is not tight at all. If the people that are being revealed to are not checked, they could just play along and sink the ship.
MaHuD 说:
This isn't WW. I'm not making a "case" because there is no "case" to be made. All I have to do is try and pick a team that I think will result in another successful mission. I think you're forgetting that the point of this game is not to lynch wolves.
I can't believe you're actually an innocent and saying these things. Especially as an experienced Resistance player. Do I really have to spell it out for you? Fine.
I select nomad, Melter, Xardob and me for the team. Mission is successful. Twinkle suggests same team, allowing for potential checking of nomad/me if he gains an alignment-check card and gives it to somebody he trusts.
I select nomad, Melter, Xardob and me for the team. Mission is sabotaged. Twinkle attempts to give cards to people he trusts to have them read the alignment of somebody on the mission team, or read the support/sabotage of a player, or whatever. Twinkle then suggests different mission team in an attempt to cut out the spy(ies).
My plan is not 100% perfectly tight, no. But my plan is at least a plan, and so far it's the best plan we have. I've taken into account the fact that there are cards still yet to be played which could clarify the alignment of myself or nomad and I've tried to make it as airtight as possible.
This is a game of trial and error, and I'm trying to think ahead as far as I can. Even if Mission 2 or Mission 3 is sabotaged, if we can figure out who 2/3 spies are then Mission 4 is safe, because selecting any combination of players except those two will result in an automatic mission success.
But since you're so happy to **** on my plan, let's hear something better from you. I mean, surely you do have a plan beyond "get on a mission and sabotage it"? Otherwise you wouldn't be judging my plan so harshly. So, let's hear yours.
MaHuD 说:
Why do you think that?
Why do you think that?
ejnomad 说:Man, you are a horrible spy. How could it be anything but random? Last I checked neither the spies nor the heroes know who anybody else is. How could I pick based on any kind of secret knowledge when everyone would just be faces in a crowd no matter what my role.
Fact is you are a very bad spy much like your poor play when you got the knife in Werewolf.
Darling, much as I agree with pretty much everything you said here, MaHuD never actually got the knife in WW. Lep used it to stab Moss, and then just framed his packmate for his own action
Not really. Just trying to make sure there are no unforeseen issues. The cards can be quite useful, for both sides. Having two spies find each other would be less than ideal. So I wanted to see if there is at all the possibility of someone lying about who they selected to reveal their cards. But since Aust has said that the person who was chosen would only show their card after their name being announced on this thread, there is no chance of that happening.Pharaoh X Llandy 说:Goker 说:
Planning what you'll do if you get the cards, huh?
Sorry I haven't been very active so far - been packing / cleaning the apartment because the lease is up in a few days. Probably won't be able to say much until Wednesday unless I can escape to an establishment that has internet, since our contract on that has been terminated.
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