[research] Greek city states
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artwork by Graham Sumner 
http://gsillustrator.co.uk/work.php?type=1
Helenistic Mercenary 2nd Punic War
from the book: "Roman Conquests - North Africa"
This reconstruction depicts one of Xanthippos’ Greek mercenaries on the morning of Tunis. He
peacefully stands, feet slightly astride, leaning on his spear with his spear arm, and holding with his
other hand a morsel of hard bread upon which he is chewing. By his feet lays his helmet, which is of
the ‘Phrygian’ pattern. The principal tool of our mercenary’s trade is a long thrusting spear, the dóru.
Fashioned out of polished ash wood and averaging 2-2.5m in length, his dóru is equipped with an
iron spearhead and bronze butt-spike. As well as acting as a counterweight to the spearhead, the butt-spike
allows the spear to be planted in the ground when not in use, or to fight with if his spear snaps
in the mêlée. He also packs a sword, the kopis, a heavy, one edged blade designed for slashing with
an overhand stroke. The cutting edge is on the inside like a Gurkha kukri, while the broad back of the
blade curves forward in such a way to weight the weapon towards its tip.
Latin soldier and Tarentine levy C.280 BC
from the book: "Roman Conquests - Italy"
A Latin ally (left), wearing a cuirass made up of small metal plates modeled after the a census
scene incised on a bronze box from Latium, uses his scutum to swipe at a soldier of the Tarentine
levy (right), c.280 – 272BC. The tarentine is equipped in typical ‘hoplite’ battle gear, including a
long, thrusting spear for phalanx fighting, but is also armed with light javelins for fighting from a
distance and perhaps even skirmishing.
http://gsillustrator.co.uk/work.php?type=1Helenistic Mercenary 2nd Punic War
from the book: "Roman Conquests - North Africa"
This reconstruction depicts one of Xanthippos’ Greek mercenaries on the morning of Tunis. He
peacefully stands, feet slightly astride, leaning on his spear with his spear arm, and holding with his
other hand a morsel of hard bread upon which he is chewing. By his feet lays his helmet, which is of
the ‘Phrygian’ pattern. The principal tool of our mercenary’s trade is a long thrusting spear, the dóru.
Fashioned out of polished ash wood and averaging 2-2.5m in length, his dóru is equipped with an
iron spearhead and bronze butt-spike. As well as acting as a counterweight to the spearhead, the butt-spike
allows the spear to be planted in the ground when not in use, or to fight with if his spear snaps
in the mêlée. He also packs a sword, the kopis, a heavy, one edged blade designed for slashing with
an overhand stroke. The cutting edge is on the inside like a Gurkha kukri, while the broad back of the
blade curves forward in such a way to weight the weapon towards its tip.
Latin soldier and Tarentine levy C.280 BC
from the book: "Roman Conquests - Italy"
A Latin ally (left), wearing a cuirass made up of small metal plates modeled after the a census
scene incised on a bronze box from Latium, uses his scutum to swipe at a soldier of the Tarentine
levy (right), c.280 – 272BC. The tarentine is equipped in typical ‘hoplite’ battle gear, including a
long, thrusting spear for phalanx fighting, but is also armed with light javelins for fighting from a
distance and perhaps even skirmishing.
hi! first of all i'd like to say that your mod is awesome!!
a small mistake that i noticed in the greek city states,
is that the spartan elites are called "spartan Hippeus",
which translates "spartan horseman".
i believe that the intention was to call them "omioi",
which means that "they are the same", or "the are all alike".
i just wanted to note this small mistake, because i can't wait for the next release!!
ps: the board is quiet for some time now. has something happened?
a small mistake that i noticed in the greek city states,
is that the spartan elites are called "spartan Hippeus",
which translates "spartan horseman".
i believe that the intention was to call them "omioi",
which means that "they are the same", or "the are all alike".
i just wanted to note this small mistake, because i can't wait for the next release!!
ps: the board is quiet for some time now. has something happened?
Thanks,
Nevertheless the Greek City States are planned to be overhauled in the future, Efrem has been a good help on that part.
My computer stopped working so I'm stuck with a near useless laptop, I'm waiting for the replacement parts that should arrive in about a week. My luck this time was that it had to happen right when we were working on a patch to release this month. Rgcotl has been quiet too so I'll assume he's been busy with work.
I believe it comes from when they tried to form a cavalry unit out of the citizen force but it didn't last for long but the name remained and the unit abandoned the horses. That's vaguely from memory though so don't quote me on that.Greek Military Glossary said:
Nevertheless the Greek City States are planned to be overhauled in the future, Efrem has been a good help on that part.
My computer stopped working so I'm stuck with a near useless laptop, I'm waiting for the replacement parts that should arrive in about a week. My luck this time was that it had to happen right when we were working on a patch to release this month. Rgcotl has been quiet too so I'll assume he's been busy with work.
i'm very happy to see that you guys are continuing the work on the mod.
i hope you get your parts fixed quickly (i know the frustration of having only a crappy laptop, to do your work with)
i didn't know that it came from that, i mean the name, and that it stuck after.
i hope you get your parts fixed quickly (i know the frustration of having only a crappy laptop, to do your work with)
i didn't know that it came from that, i mean the name, and that it stuck after.
Agathocles - Tyrant of Syracuse - by Angel Garcia Pinto
Hello, sirs. This may or may not be of use to you. But seeing as hist. accuracy is something you strive for, I feel that a huge batch of highly detailed drawings of sauroter finds might come in handy! Plus this does appear to be the thread to put detailed images of accurate stuff! Here you are.
These were saved from a book in German. I don't know which. Unfortunately, I don't know any dates.. however I believe that sauroter variation was constant in the Greek world. You will want to right-click + view. I just added a list here, as they're so large that one might as well view them in separate tabs.
http://imgur.com/0XGiuER
http://imgur.com/C3j7LbK
http://imgur.com/PWLwjml
http://imgur.com/90VQ3E6
http://imgur.com/UAH43TQ
http://imgur.com/g7YkiRi
http://imgur.com/28wBkUw
http://imgur.com/a0ePzbb
http://imgur.com/Tzo2jWo
http://imgur.com/qIGEMvI
http://imgur.com/G0uIilL
http://imgur.com/CQHDFwR
http://imgur.com/lImkNPq
http://imgur.com/OC2MlNz
http://imgur.com/KtCcTXN
http://imgur.com/p9HWC63
These were saved from a book in German. I don't know which. Unfortunately, I don't know any dates.. however I believe that sauroter variation was constant in the Greek world. You will want to right-click + view. I just added a list here, as they're so large that one might as well view them in separate tabs.
http://imgur.com/0XGiuER
http://imgur.com/C3j7LbK
http://imgur.com/PWLwjml
http://imgur.com/90VQ3E6
http://imgur.com/UAH43TQ
http://imgur.com/g7YkiRi
http://imgur.com/28wBkUw
http://imgur.com/a0ePzbb
http://imgur.com/Tzo2jWo
http://imgur.com/qIGEMvI
http://imgur.com/G0uIilL
http://imgur.com/CQHDFwR
http://imgur.com/lImkNPq
http://imgur.com/OC2MlNz
http://imgur.com/KtCcTXN
http://imgur.com/p9HWC63
Thanks, that way it doesn't get lost, until the image stocking service fails that is, and can be used as a reference by more people. We're pretty busy with other stuff now to start right away on this but maybe when we get to it we'll track the original document with the descriptions, how's that German course going Joub? 
Seek n Destroy said:Thanks, that way it doesn't get lost, until the image stocking service fails that is, and can be used as a reference by more people. We're pretty busy with other stuff now to start right away on this but maybe when we get to it we'll track the original document with the descriptions, how's that German course going Joub?
It's coming along. Got enough of a working grasp on it that I need to look up only the harder words
Seek n Destroy said:Thanks, that way it doesn't get lost, until the image stocking service fails that is, and can be used as a reference by more people. We're pretty busy with other stuff now to start right away on this but maybe when we get to it we'll track the original document with the descriptions, how's that German course going Joub?
Certainly! Anyone and everyone can use them! Although I'm sure whoever first went and scanned and uploaded these files are to thank, I don't know their name, but I do know the name of the awesome guy who gave me these sauroter images to use. He's a native Greek, Ancient history buff and quality re-enactor who goes by Giannis Kadoglou! (You might see him on Roman Army Talk as well). Awesome guy, he is. A lot of knowledge, very smart and and very helpful. So here's to you Giannis!
Opa!That's very interesting, regarding the Spartan as cavalry, because I've read some ancient historical fiction that refers to them as Knights, and I knew it was not a medieval reference, obviously, so it had to be both a reference to their social status, aristocracy, their status as equals/peers, and of course, a reference to their old cavalryman status.
Le Pui Grandu Bataglie Della Storia Vol.I:
Mondo Antico e Roma (Focus Storia: Wars Special)
Theban Sacred Band hoplite,
and the battle of Leuctra,
both by Giuseppe Rava
Mondo Antico e Roma (Focus Storia: Wars Special)
Theban Sacred Band hoplite,
and the battle of Leuctra,
both by Giuseppe Rava
Focus Storia Wars 2017-04 (24)
Architectural reconstructions by Jean Claude Golvin
https://thelosttreasurechest.wordpress.com/2017/05/18/historical-reconstructions-series-part-i/
Greece http://jeanclaudegolvin.com/greece-3/
https://thelosttreasurechest.wordpress.com/2017/05/18/historical-reconstructions-series-part-i/Greece
http://jeanclaudegolvin.com/greece-3/
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Page in Spanish that shows the Greeks and their armies.
https://arrecaballo.es/edad-antigua/los-griegos/
https://arrecaballo.es/edad-antigua/los-griegos/
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