remove script in script.txt

[MiljuDelem]

hello,

I'd like to disable these line in script.txt:

get_nearest_enemy_battlegroup_location -1
get_nearest_enemy_battlegroup_current_position -1

because they might be the cause of the stutter in my game.

I'm a novice in editing, I tried to remove the lines and the numbers under the lines but I got an error.

Can somebody guide me and tell me if it's possible?

thanks

Julien

 

[Somebody]

What makes you so sure that script is causing the problems? You can't just go around erasing lines of scripts as if that'll solve all your problems. Context is important here, and just going by the name it looks like that's a part of some formation script which affects targeting enemy groups, without which your troops will probably stand still. Most mods have in-game options to disable formations, so I suggest you ask the mod/script authors.

 

[MiljuDelem]

thanks for your answer.
I'm experimenting stutering every 3-4s for large battles (+200 bots) even with smooth fps, I tried everything to make it diseappar:

render_buffer_size = 512 in rgl config

I tried every option combinaison in the laucher (tried caping fps to 60 and 30 without success)

tried  disable App can handle >2GB in the exe

tried remove every graphic option ingame, getting 60 fps but stuttering is still there



Stutering concerns for warband 1.153:
native
brytenwalda (last version)
AD1257 (last version)
Diplo 4.2+PBOD via WSE and 1.153 compatibility pach
Diplo 4.3
floris 2.54

and for warband 1.143
Diplo 4.2 + PBOD
knight last battle 2.3



The ONLY mod that works without stutter is knights last battle v2.0, works for 1.153 and 1.143.
Knights last battle v2.3 has stuttering for 1.143 and 1.153



SO I tried to delete v2.3 scripts.txt and put v2.0 scripts.txt instead and MIRACLE sutter diseappear for knight last battle v2.3!! So there is a line that I have to change but I don't know which.


finaly it seems that it's not
get_nearest_enemy_battlegroup_location -1
get_nearest_enemy_battlegroup_current_position -1
because they don't appear in scripts.txt of native 1.153, wich has stutter to, so it's something else.

 

[xenoargh]

What do you mean by "stuttering", anyhow?  Just short laggy bits?  Or does the game halt?

If it's merely laggy, perhaps the mod's author can better-optimize their formations operations.  Most likely they're trying to run something very expensive rather too often.

If it's halting, i.e., it seems to "get stuck" but the program doesn't quite crash... you're out of memory.  Given the mods you're describing, this sounds rather likely.  In which case, switch to DX7 mode and see whether the "stutter" quits happening.

 

[Mad Vader]

If he gets stuttering in Native, it's not the mods, but the PC/Warband configuration. Possibly something as silly as running other programs in the background.

 

[xenoargh]

Well, that, or he just doesn't have much RAM / VM.  I'm pretty sure that even Native's going to occasionally hiccup if you only have 1-1.5GB on XP.

 

[MiljuDelem]

thank you very much for your quick answers!

What makes you so sure that script is causing the problems? You can't just go around erasing lines of scripts as if that'll solve all your problems. Context is important here, and just going by the name it looks like that's a part of some formation script which affects targeting enemy groups, without which your troops will probably stand still. Most mods have in-game options to disable formations, so I suggest you ask the mod/script authors.

stutter is a kind of snapshot effect (fps=0 for one tenth of a second) and it  occures every 4-5 sec. So the game doesn't crash but it's really anoying in big battles, and frustrating because fps are high aside of this "snapshot effect"

BTW my config is quadcore i7 @ 2.93Ghz
8.00G RAM and GTX 560ti

If he gets stuttering in Native, it's not the mods, but the PC/Warband configuration. Possibly something as silly as running other programs in the background.

exactly, it happens even in native so it's not mod related.
I just made further investigation and the problems concerns:

1.153 native
1.143 native

and DOESN'T concern:
1.134 native
1.130 native

I tried to put scripts.txt from 1.134 into 1.143 version and it works without stuter!

So the problem is a changement in scripts.txt that happened when they upgraded the game to 1.143 and up.


Concerning programs in the background my system is fairly clean, and it would concern every version of the game anyway.

 

[Mad Vader]

There was nothing changed in the module system missions (battles) in 1.143, so it may be the engine. Doubtful that .txt tweaking will help. Do a search for performance threads for Warband and try out the stuff there.

 

[MiljuDelem]

There was nothing changed in the module system missions (battles) in 1.143, so it may be the engine. Doubtful that .txt tweaking will help. Do a search for performance threads for Warband and try out the stuff there.

I just played a saved battle with 1.153: stutter
and then 1.153 with scripts.txt from 1.134 and here again no stutter at all!
so I really think scripts.txt is the key here 

 

[xenoargh]

That's interesting.

How often does this stuttering occur?  Does it happen when troops are spawning, or just randomly, or every 4-5 seconds, regardless of what's going on?

Given your testing results, it's fair to say that there may be an issue with the scripts.  Given that it's not happening to everybody everywhere, it's probably going to be an engine issue with a very specific command.

I take it that you're not seeing any red text in the console display, showing script errors?

 

[Mad Vader]

I did a quick diff between 1.134 and 1.143 and look at the missions and scripts, haven't seen anything suspicious there.

 

[MiljuDelem]

That's interesting.

How often does this stuttering occur?  Does it happen when troops are spawning, or just randomly, or every 4-5 seconds, regardless of what's going on?

Given your testing results, it's fair to say that there may be an issue with the scripts.  Given that it's not happening to everybody everywhere, it's probably going to be an engine issue with a very specific command.

I take it that you're not seeing any red text in the console display, showing script errors?

in the stuttering versions, it occures every 4-5 sec, EVERY time I load a big campaign battle (200+ bots), the stutter happens from the begining to the middle of the battle when the number of bots is seriously decreased, so it's retalted to the number of bots in the battlefield. The fps are very good all along the battle. And uncheking every graphic option changes nothing in the stuttering problem. No script error since it's the original scipts.txt.

In the working versions, I load the very same battles and no stuttering at all, regardless of graphical options. I can have battles with near 1000 AI with no particular problem.

I'm gone for a week I'll try to find a workaround when I get back