Revverie
Pretty much this
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Yeah, so should I feel bad that we got an answer from Callum? What might be rude to you, might not be rude to me, we have different thresholds. Also, I did not compare myself to people by calling them bad, but the statement above is true. Most people who are whining about 'toxicity' being a deal breaker for them are actually bad at the game. This has been the case on a big variety of competitive environments (not pro-stage level, competitive as in effort requiring games) and I have never seen any great player or pro blaming 'toxic culture' for MP games and the good ones are busy playing the game. I genuinely think that these people live in denial and throw excuses.
And to make myself clear, I do not like racial slurs or too much chat in my games, especially of negative nature. And I will do report those who misbehave constantly by abusing the chat. But there is no 'toxic culture' like some people claim and see MP games as second grade or request absurd things like ''do not release an mp aspect of this game, do SP only!!!". That's laughable.MP communities arguably keep games alive more than SP. Regardless, I will try to be more 'passive' from now on in the way I express myself to other users. Unless nonsense appears.
Revverie
Man you really think so high of yourself that whatever you say even if you have no proof, no bases, no studies its true? I've been playing warband MP since 2014 and I know pro players, I know admins, I know community managers and I used to lead a clan myself for almost 3 years, and I know that toxic players exists, I've seen them act and I've seen them ruin competitions, I've seen clans straight up die because of toxic behaviours from players either inside or outside the clan, that happened multiple times, and I definitly KNOW the very best players in my community complain about toxicity. The thing is that luckily as there are toxic people there are nice people to compensate, and new players may stay depending on who they meet first. You're the one that neglects toxicity because you're a toxic person yourself, and you dont need to be good or bad in a game to tell that, that is your excuse
Personal salt has nothing to do with idiots running their mouth loud in the chat on public games. If clans disbanded because of toxicity then they should be better judge of characters. The OP is obviously not in a clan and generally dislikes MP games because of his false opinion that we are all toxic. You write irrelevant **** nobody asked for to justify your opinions. I do not need studies and proof, majority of people do not care about idiots talking crap on an online chat because they're too busy enjoying the game. What you talk about is about inter-clan issues that have nothing to do with the vast majority mentality of MP games. Controlled environments that have toxicity (clans, competitions) do not reflect the pub games. If you allow toxicity in a controlled environment, it's your fault. As said, be a better judge of character. Also, if a clan can't withstand toxicity in their environment and kick those who practice it maybe they should not be clans and go play hello kitty online. Running clans requires understanding among the folk in it and iron will to kick those who cause troubles. If you disband clans because of toxicity then you dont dont deserve to run a clan. You also seem to be extremely confused about the several manifestations of toxicity, as I mentioned, we talk about PUB and general mentality that will be shown to a big majority of players who are casual, and you twist your arguement into esoteric in-clan issues that affect people in an extremely different way. If you cant follow the discussion on the specific nature of the toxicity arguement then stop talking.
I dont really care if people call me toxic to be honest, I know I am not toxic, people don't like when you tell them something in a more aggressive tone than what they are used by their mums, so they jump the 'toxicity' blaming bandwagon. People who misbehave will always exist, especially under internet's anonymity and you can't really do anything about them but muting them (which is enough) in a public gameplay environment. If toxicity exists in a clan, then it's the clan's problem. Nothing I said above is unreasonable. In every single game I played the toxic incidents and arguements are minimal in the chat, probably less than 10% of my game time as a whole. That is not a problem, considering people exists who want to talk crap. Toxicity culture as presented by the OP and Nymeris is a plain lie. And even if people got turned off by some loud mouths in online video games, then I suggest logging off and play more 'real life'.
Lastly, i won't blame the mentally impaired people for being toxic and try to drain other people off in online games. They have problems, they won't change. If you don't want to mute them, that's your own problem. Maybe the problem is not toxicity, maybe the problem is that you want to whine about useless things instead of playing the game you bought to play. I for one, do not care about toxic loud mouths. I will report them, I will mute them and life goes on. I am not going to act all dramatic about it, but I do understand some people feel the need to do so, for some reason.
Revverie
Okay bud, I see that everytime I bring an argument you just avoid everything I say and focus in one single part of my comment taking it completely out of context, you live in your own bubble and I see that you're pretty comfortable neglecting and avoiding everything anyone has to say, so have fun insulting aimelessly I'm done overly explaining every point I make so you can bash it with 0 interpetation later
I have addressed everything you wrote in detail and compared both the 'controlled environment' situations you mentioned and the common environment which is pub, in detail again. You are the one walking away, not me.
I really think the OP has learned their lesson at this point because by god did this thread go off a tangent.
You have to pay for MP beta? I thought it was free if you got picked. Was that a scam?
Also as people have said SP Early Access/beta is coming in March. As far as I know you can't purchase it yet.
Also as people have said SP Early Access/beta is coming in March. As far as I know you can't purchase it yet.
It was free for me and a few others who were invited back in around June, and then when it got made public you had to pay.
I stand corrected. I remember seeing a screenshot which suggested that but turns out not.
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You do not have to pay for the beta, you get access by applying and receiving a key via mail or maybe someone has some keys from a giveaway, but keys are not for sale. If you come across an offer to pay for a beta key, please report it, and for heaven's sake do not pay a single cent.
Regarding EA: Yes, it will come in March, though exact info regarding a specific date and price is not yet public knowledge. EA will feature Singleplayer access though, it being early access for a reason, have not all features that the game will have at full release.
Regarding EA: Yes, it will come in March, though exact info regarding a specific date and price is not yet public knowledge. EA will feature Singleplayer access though, it being early access for a reason, have not all features that the game will have at full release.
Scardan Youmans
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Well, a lot of people will pay for a beta called "early access". Which i find anti-consumer myself, but it's me.
The beta is free, you simply get invited or you dont. Why would you waste money on a beta when EA is coming anyway?
And i dont think its anti-consumer if you know what you're getting into, i couldn't care less about the MP beta, i want the SP
Nobody's forcing you or anybody to buy it though, so the **** does it matter. And you're still getting the full game at the end.
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