Relationships Falling

[Rainbowfish]

I've been with the Rhodoks for the longest time, and finally I decided to make my own nation "Rome" (Even got the color red too, sweet) and quickly took control of all of the Rhodoks and Sarranids, the Rhodoks are completely destroyed, not a single family member, but that's not what I'm posting for.

I've been giving fiefs to my people, and now some of my vassals are at -50, what happens? I can't fix it because the second I give them one to better our relationship, someone else drops to -50.

Also, is there a way to get rid of lords without reducing your relationship with others? I have like 30 lords and ladies, and only about 25 places.

 

[tzlop]

Grant fiefs to everyone and give fief to a lord that the lord you are against hate, also lead him into enemy territory and let him face the horde.  And once negative relation builds to around -50 or he will defect.

Once his relation with you reaches negative he won't ocme to your feasts so it won't raise his relation up again.

Also ask your spouse about improving your standing (so when two lords fight, and one of the lord is the lord you want to get rid of, simply talk to the other lord and say 'I guess your right' which will result about -20 relation with the other lord).

 

[wrc]

You should talk to your lords when giving someone a fief and ask them about their opinion. If someone disagree with your decision your relation with him will drop for certain amount of points. Also, honor is very important in all this and IIRC holding feasts could help in gaining better relations with your lords but I'm not 100% sure about that.

 

[Rainbowfish]

So about half my vassals are about to defect? Oh no..

A majority of my vassals are former Rhodoks or Sarranids, and party members, and I'm currently invading Swadia, does that mean they'd join my enemy and give their fiefs to them too?



Also, every single one of my vassals only supports themselves.

 

[tzlop]

Lords take time to get to know eachother, on most cases they support their family members (mostly elder) and close friends (which is usually in the same faction).  If neither option apply, they support themselves. 

I usually solve this problem by finding the highest renown lord ( or the lord with most family members in my kingdom) and give him a town. 

By doing this the income of that lord greatly increases thus allowing him to host feasts which will increase his relation with all other lords if they join, this action will give you the option in the future when lords only support themselves to give fief to that lord. If you do give the fief to that lord majority of lords will not lose relation with you because they view it as you gave it to a friend of theirs.  (some might even increase relations but that lord needs to feats a couple times in order to gain enough relation.)

The advise above gives you a temporarily boost of relation among lords during desperate times and also solve some problem when every lords has at least 1 fief and you don't want to anger more lords. 

Other than that, start kissing their butts and help your fellow lords in battle as they grant the most relationship boost.

 

[Rainbowfish]

Can I take away towns from people? I've been taking control of the towns for the most part, but recently gave them away to random people that didn't have fiefs. Do I have to expel them to get the towns back?

 

[tzlop]

In certain mods you can do that, which might result them defecting instead (depending on the relation) and you lose relationship with them.

Though highly unrecommended, turn on cheat and go to the town, click instand capture.  If you do that the holder of the town will lose the fief but the owners of surrounding villages will not lose their holding, thus giving you a safe choice.

If you don't want to import cheats, then import your save file into some mods, like Native expansion is one of them.

 

[Rainbowfish]

instant capture? What cheat is that. I've looked up the cheats (Never used) but didn't see an instant capture thing.

 

[tzlop]

you have to have cheat on, then you enter the game and click on a town.  Once you scroll down you will see the instant capture option, that's what I'm talking about.

 

[Rainbowfish]

You must be thinking of a mod.

 

[wrc]

You must be thinking of a mod.

No, he means that you can capture town/castle via cheatmenu. Press ctrl+~ on the world map and type cheatmenu in console to get cheat options in the camp menu.

 

[Rainbowfish]

OH. COOL! This also solves the problem of my lords hating me. Thank you!

 

[wrc]

OH. COOL! This also solves the problem of my lords hating me. Thank you!

LoL
No problem but tzlop is the one who was really helpful.
Don't use cheats too much it'll ruin your game.

 

[Rainbowfish]

I just need it to make my now -75 lords go to 100 :]

Def not going to use it to take cities.