No one that hosts the subreddit events thinks that Warband suffered from either of those issues. You're talking out of your ass, the regulars all share the same issues with the game that the forums do.The problem with reddit was always that they hated warband mp. You go there you’ll see the common view is that warband was everyone spinning and abusing animations to win fights. It was just a very entitled attitude, and even the guys who host the reddit CC’s will tell you the same. Nothing wrong with the CCs they are a ton of fun btw!