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Nice work, but this is not a wrap up that make the picture complete. You need to read those reviews, full time job reviewers' opinions are pretty diverse, interns say mostly positive things E.g. there are several opinions praising their managamenet you didn't include here. I assume those are just couple of interesting opinions but i have different impression based on that compared to the source page.
No there isn't.
1 comment says that managers are open-minded. The rest mentions Armagan or the more generic "colleagues" in the PRO section, not management.
Also most of the comments regarding other people in the company, are about friendliness, not if they are good or not.
I have worked with several people that are nice friendly people who I gladly had a drink with after work, but that I did not want to work with in a professional environment. I think it's important to separate "friendly" and "good".
There are. Please read carefully.
P.S. To call somebody open mided person is a form of praise - i hope you will agree. Those are positives - let me post some exaples below so anybody can build his own opinion.
Apart from that it is not only "****storm on the management" we talk about here... there are comments that do not say anything about mgmt.
P.S.2. Don't get me wrong.. based on what i read i see there are huge problems within the company related to the leadership and this is very much reflected in the game development but this is not always black and white. Sure we can post those negatives as well, but this isn't my point.
Grey matter matters !
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I think you are not reading between the lines.
For example, "open-minded manager" clearly means "gay manager"; "friendly coworkers" probably means they are bisexual.
"Team leaders are good but can't lead" is tricky. Clearly team leaders are good at something, but it's not their job. You can pretty much guess what they are good at based on the other comments.
As with steam reviews (or any kind of review really), the place where you get the most insight is by looking at the negatives first. In a "good" company (at least for employees) like Creative Assembly, the worst reviews are things like "some of the software is out of date", "no cafes in the area to grab lunch", "development is sometimes a bit slow" and so on. If these are the worst things anyone can think of when talking about the company, I would be very optimistic about working there, even if there were no other pros mentioned. A place where the worst thing is that they use old software, I would almost consider that a dream job.
However with Taleworlds (and Paradox, funnily enough), there are a select few reviews which are so scathing that they make me never want to work there, no matter how good the perks or pay are. I think most glassdoor reviews are going to be sort of vaguely positive, because in my experience most people are just happy to have a source of income and will sometimes avoid complaining until things are basically intolerable.
I don't think this is just being overly critical either, I always go to negative reviews on steam because it's where you find the most useful information about stuff that would make you regret ever buying it. When most people like something they are usually vague about it, but when they don't like it they are usually a lot more specific.
Nalgasucia507
Squire
Man, were ****ed big time, in all scenarios possible.
Limbojack
Veteran
It depends. Is the current state of Bannerlord caused by a lack of resources, or is it caused by a lack of vision and bad priorities? If it's the former, I'd be furious that they are thinking about making a new game while Bannerlord is such a meh product. If it's the latter, well, then it's different.
Bwahaha
it will never be the same reading job reviews... ever againI agree and i read all of the negative reviews first. There is a common pattern... especially ftom those posted by the former dev's and/or designers. I work 13 years in the same company and i am fed up with some things - shared on a review would look really bad but my overall experience is positive.
And there are of course some geopolitical reasons... "best software company in Turkey" is one of them. I doubt it would be very much first option for well established, worldwide known senior staff to consider.
Exactly my point from couple of emails above.
You are missing the point my dude. I cant very well put the same point in PRO and CON when making a summary.There are. Please read carefully.
P.S. To call somebody open mided person is a form of praise - i hope you will agree. Those are positives - let me post some exaples below so anybody can build his own opinion.
Apart from that it is not only "****storm on the management" we talk about here... there are comments that do not say anything about mgmt.
P.S.2. Don't get me wrong.. based on what i read i see there are huge problems within the company related to the leadership and this is very much reflected in the game development but this is not always black and white. Sure we can post those negatives as well, but this isn't my point.
Grey matter matters !
Being open minded =/= good at leading.
Being friendly =/= good at leading.
Friendly colleagues was already covered in PRO, don't need to add it again for management IMO.
Also, having 1 review out of 19 saying 1 positive thing about management that wasn't about friendliness, (the open minded one) isn't good enough to put it on a summary.
If it were, there would be plenty more in the CON list.
I know you want to white knight TW, but give it a rest.
Hard to comment mate... this is not what i said or imply. I don't want to white knight anybody
- i upvoted this damn plot here, what you by the way have commented several posts ago. Sorry to say that but you either didn't put to much attention to what i wrote or simply have different opinion on what very bad / moderate / very good reviews are. Different opinions aren't a bad thing to acknowledge. I very much respect your overally critical point of view. Are you black knighting by the way ?I was pretty much saying your list and the glassdoor source weren't giving the same impression to me. Please check @MadVader interpretations... He is clearly "read between the lines god of some sort" ...at least to me from now on
I have the same impression with Stromming. Maybe it's because of cultrual background. In China and Japan, when you comment someone as 'good' or 'friendly' in a performance review without indicating they are good at jobs, you are basically calling them incompetent workers.
Those are annonymous reviews, so what is the point in extra camouflaging what you think ?
I tried to be as objective as possible. I wanted a minimum of 2 similar comments for it to appear on the list and no they had to be unique, like there can't be 2 friendly PRO points, 1 for colleague and 1 for management, they all go under the same.Hard to comment mate... this is not what i said or imply. I don't want to white knight anybody
I was pretty much saying your list and the glassdoor source weren't giving the same impression to me. Please check @MadVader interpretations... He is clearly "read between the lines god of some sort" ...at least to me from now on
And no one actually said explicitly that leadership was good.
1 said they were open minded, meaning that they listen (1 point isn't enough for the list, and it also doesn't mean that they at good at leading)
1 said they were friendly (covered in an earlier point about friendly work environment and also says nothing about leading ability)
1 said they were good but overall leading needs some work (1 point isn't enough, and this is a pretty confusing comment. what makes them good? clearly not the leading as that needed some work)
Now how about the negative feedback which clearly outweighs the positive non-existent one, and the reason why I only put it in CON and not PRO.
I would also like to highlight that all the Glassdoor reviews are from 2013 to 2021 with the majority being 2015/16-2020
As for me you don't have to explain. You have the full right to blame them and how you decided to present it - is your right.I tried to be as objective as possible. I wanted a minimum of 2 similar comments for it to appear on the list and no they had to be unique, like there can't be 2 friendly PRO points, 1 for colleague and 1 for management, they all go under the same.
And no one actually said explicitly that leadership was good.
1 said they were open minded, meaning that they listen (1 point isn't enough for the list, and it also doesn't mean that they at good at leading)
1 said they were friendly (covered in an earlier point about friendly work environment and also says nothing about leading ability)
1 said they were good but overall leading needs some work (1 point isn't enough, and this is a pretty confusing comment. what makes them good? clearly not the leading as that needed some work)
Now how about the negative feedback which clearly outweighs the positive non-existent one, and the reason why I only put it in CON and not PRO.
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Me saying they have good opinions and sending that to @MostBlunted was pure sarcasm. You started a small crusade based on that
That is about reading "in between the lines".By the way.. what is this thing we are discussing here? Am I missing something ? Are you really try to say i am wrong ? In what ? What did i say ? Did i offend you by disagreeing ?
I'm not saying you are wrong. I am not disagreeing with you. You did not offend me.
It just seemed to me that you thought it was somehow unfair by me to not include certain positive comments. And I merely wanted to explain my reasoning why it was perfectly fair not to include them.
Also I am not hating on TW.
I think TW is making A LOT of mistakes in regards to the development of this game, and they have seriously damaged my faith in them being able to produce a good game without relying on modders to make the game a success with even a moderate amount of longevity.
BUT they did fill a whole in the market, and for that I will be ever grateful. Even if they become the next Bioware, Blizzard, Bethesda or what have you and start producing crap and I never buy another game from them again.
Fate
Veteran
This hits the nail on the head especially for any development based company.
There's some really concerning things in these employee reviews for TW. I'm not surprised TW is struggling so heavily
