I just spent two+ hours trying to improve my relationship with the Pethros clan. Managed to get 8+ relationship points up from -8 to 0. They gifted me fiefs, castles, and even a city on the front lines of our new territory. Lost the castles every now and then and the relationship with Pethros, my liege, is almost as bad as with the lords of the nation we are at war with. Tried generous gifts, like 5+ horses and 10k+ denar, no improvements to the relationship. Gifted high brow prisoners, no improvements to the relationship. The only way I have found to increase relationship with lords like that is to get rid of thugs in their cities, but there is no point in doing that with the -20 to losing a settlement debuff. At least not as long as there is actually no other reasonable way to increase relationship points Devs, please balance this.


