Please add the Estoc Sword

[Robbor]

The estoc sword apeared in the early to mid 16th century to make an effective weapon for spliting rings of mail and thrusting it through weakpoints of plate wearing knights. The sword was from 50 - 65 inches long (10 inch hilt) and it had no cutting edge. The idea was that you could hold the sword with one hand on the hilt and the other at the midsection (in some cases this had diamond shaped part just for that) to give it more thrusting power. But it was also used only in one hand (with a shield) as it was quite light (less than 2 pounds)

It was not uncommon that two knights would face off on horseback, or on foot with this weapon as it proved very effective.

I think this would make a nice back-up weapon when you're facing a heavily armored opponent.

 

[Ingolifs]

I'd say that the point in time that this was developed for doesn't seem to fit well with m&b. Earlier mediaeval armour and weapons were geared for duels and flashy swordfights, whereas later weapons like these were geared towards bludgeoning a knight down to the ground so you could stand on his arms and jab a sharp object between one of the cracks in his armour.

Tell me, which form of mediaeval fiighting sounds more fun?

M&b isn't known for it's mediaeval accuracy however, so it might get in.
But if the estoc was added in the game, i'm pretty sure it would end up being a slashing weapon as well. It would serve pretty much the same function as all the other swords and thrusting weapons in the game.

 

[Robbor]

Earlier medieval armors were actualy geared for being cheap and efficient, leather tunics, some scale, very little mail and only partial plate. Duels became popular later in the era when the knights were beginning to disapear from the battlefields. Flashy swordfight? Not really, more like flasy spearfighting. And the estoc was not used to bludgeon a knight into the ground =/

Let me elaborate for any other people with comprehensive limitations. The weapon is used to find chinks in a platemail armor, be it under the shoulder, or the cracks in the joints. And if it were put in and was also a slashing weapon it wouldn't be an estoc anymore, now would it. Please at least try to stay a little bit focused to what I asked for.

On a further note, how the hell could an estoc be medievaly inaccurate, are you saying full platemail is okay (16th century) but an estoc is not (16th century)?

 

[Worbah]

Why didn't you post here?

http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1321

 

[Robbor]

I glanced the forum rather briefly and didn't notice a new weapons thread, so i made a separate one.

 

[Sir Saladin]

I have comprehensive limitations, I thought a crossbow could punch right through even plate armor. And a guy with a crossbow was just a peasant.

 

[Robbor]

You obviously do sir, jumping in a conversation with something completely off topic!

 

[Sir Saladin]

hahaha!

 

[Destichado]

Estocs rule. But the will not fit into the current combat modes. You don't swing with them, but you don't thrust with them either. They're crowbars, and they're used like such. The same could be said for greatswords -why aren't we half-swording like SANE people, instead of whipping those featherdusters around while some smart lad with a warhammer picks us apart like we are.

Oh well. Waid a few generations of updates for the game dynamics to improve. Then we'll see.