Petition for Australian/Oceania Servers

[Caementicium]

I think the issue has mostly passed at this point.
The distinction lies between the multiplayer beta and the early access release. They clearly made the decision to not have an Oceania server during the beta for whatever reason(likely due to the alleged rollout of beta keys being based on hardware specifications, perhaps Oceania applicants didn't number high enough within specific hardware brackets to justify inviting them to the test, therefore no server. For example.) And I think it is probably too late in the multiplayer beta for Taleworlds to change their mind on the issue. Effort is clearly being concentrated on the upcoming EA release.

I don't think that the absence of a server during the beta is any indication of an absence of a server during early access. As opposed to people Taleworlds literally chose to invite, by all logic there should be an inundation of paying customers clamoring to play multiplayer(and singleplayer, obviously).
So not having a server ready for everyone, Oceanic or South American or wherever else is probably not going to happen.
So I think bumping the topic is all well and good but the words have already been said and we're just left to wait for EA at this point.

And if for whatever reason, EA comes and the server is still missing without an amazingly compelling justification and ETA on said servers, well at that point we can vote with the refund feature on steam.

 

[Dredd.]

I don't think TaleWorlds had any inclination of giving us servers, on the beta sign up, even though there was a part where you could place where you lived, noone from AU who signed up saying they were Australian didn't get any beta keys. Every person in Australia that has a beta key either bought it online or lied about where they lived in the sign up form.

 

[daniel99]

I think the issue has mostly passed at this point.
The distinction lies between the multiplayer beta and the early access release. They clearly made the decision to not have an Oceania server during the beta for whatever reason(likely due to the alleged rollout of beta keys being based on hardware specifications, perhaps Oceania applicants didn't number high enough within specific hardware brackets to justify inviting them to the test, therefore no server. For example.) And I think it is probably too late in the multiplayer beta for Taleworlds to change their mind on the issue. Effort is clearly being concentrated on the upcoming EA release.

I don't think that the absence of a server during the beta is any indication of an absence of a server during early access. As opposed to people Taleworlds literally chose to invite, by all logic there should be an inundation of paying customers clamoring to play multiplayer(and singleplayer, obviously).
So not having a server ready for everyone, Oceanic or South American or wherever else is probably not going to happen.
So I think bumping the topic is all well and good but the words have already been said and we're just left to wait for EA at this point.

And if for whatever reason, EA comes and the server is still missing without an amazingly compelling justification and ETA on said servers, well at that point we can vote with the refund feature on steam.

That is just the issue. There is no indication that we will even be getting them in the Early Access either. The number of games which have outright ignored us in the past is a pretty good reason to think we will be ignored here. Callum said something along the lines of "we will look into it some time in the future." Which is a pretty awful guarantee considering Taleworld's track record with releasing things on time. The fact that we won't be able to even host our own servers when EA releases has just been another punch to the face.

If they actually intend to give us servers upon the release of EA Callum is quite welcome to let us know here and prove my doubts wrong. But at this point the realistic thing to say would be that we (at best) will get servers late into EA, and (at worst) not until full release whenever that is.

Regarding the Beta itself, if we weren't going to get keys they should have been upfront and said it, rather than saying "Don't worry, your turn will come." We've been waiting around for what...5-6 months now? Chinese servers (where we get our best ping) are largely empty most of the time, so it's not like the servers are running out of space. At that point you can't really blame a lot of Australians for just outright buying keys.

 

[Dredd.]

It's kinda funny how Chinese players get a server and we don't, even though we have more players. It's so unfortunate that TaleWorlds deceived us and then not even consider giving us a server.

 

[Caementicium]

That is just the issue. There is no indication that we will even be getting them in the Early Access either. The number of games which have outright ignored us in the past is a pretty good reason to think we will be ignored here. Callum said something along the lines of "we will look into it some time in the future." Which is a pretty awful guarantee considering Taleworld's track record with releasing things on time. The fact that we won't be able to even host our own servers when EA releases has just been another punch to the face.

If they actually intend to give us servers upon the release of EA Callum is quite welcome to let us know here and prove my doubts wrong. But at this point the realistic thing to say would be that we (at best) will get servers late into EA, and (at worst) not until full release whenever that is.

Regarding the Beta itself, if we weren't going to get keys they should have been upfront and said it, rather than saying "Don't worry, your turn will come." We've been waiting around for what...5-6 months now? Chinese servers (where we get our best ping) are largely empty most of the time, so it's not like the servers are running out of space. At that point you can't really blame a lot of Australians for just outright buying keys.

I'm on board with your dissatisfaction for sure. I mostly mean to suggest that what there was to say has already been said and whatever will happen will happen regardless of continuing the discussion.
Lack of communication does hurt, but I mean look at which developer we're discussing and what game we're anticipating. I think it's unsurprising how little has been communicated. Again, this isn't good, but it is to be expected at this point.

Beyond that, I do disagree with your doomsday predictions, I think you're overestimating the problem. There is a massive difference between servers during the beta and servers during early access. Like I said, beta invitations are literally that; invitations. It seems exclusionary for sure but nobody is inherently entitled to receive an invitation.

But early access is completely different. Instead of Taleworlds excluding certain populations out of convenience as with the beta, to not have prepared servers for all regions when all regions will suddenly overnight come to include paying customers is a bit of an extreme possibility.
The beta isn't a service being provided to the audience(mostly, at least), it is supposed to be the opposite; a chance for the players to provide their testing services to the developer.
When the game finally does begin to sell, that relationship becomes appropriately flipped. Customers are paying for services, and for those services to be missing would be particularly egregious. I mentioned refunds being a possibility, which is the arena that things will shift to. Excluding people from South America and Oceania during the beta doesn't "hurt" Taleworlds, really. But excluding those same people(and the many, many more who didn't sign up for beta testing) from a service that might be the pivotal factor deciding purchases is a clear financial blunder.

I've been ranting for a bit but all I really mean to say is that I think you can have slightly higher expectations for early access if for no other reason than that it is in Taleworld's financial interests to meet expectations, unlike during the beta.

 

[Remnant_Kaewyn]

I'm on board with your dissatisfaction for sure. I mostly mean to suggest that what there was to say has already been said and whatever will happen will happen regardless of continuing the discussion.
Lack of communication does hurt, but I mean look at which developer we're discussing and what game we're anticipating. I think it's unsurprising how little has been communicated. Again, this isn't good, but it is to be expected at this point.

Beyond that, I do disagree with your doomsday predictions, I think you're overestimating the problem. There is a massive difference between servers during the beta and servers during early access. Like I said, beta invitations are literally that; invitations. It seems exclusionary for sure but nobody is inherently entitled to receive an invitation.

But early access is completely different. Instead of Taleworlds excluding certain populations out of convenience as with the beta, to not have prepared servers for all regions when all regions will suddenly overnight come to include paying customers is a bit of an extreme possibility.
The beta isn't a service being provided to the audience(mostly, at least), it is supposed to be the opposite; a chance for the players to provide their testing services to the developer.
When the game finally does begin to sell, that relationship becomes appropriately flipped. Customers are paying for services, and for those services to be missing would be particularly egregious. I mentioned refunds being a possibility, which is the arena that things will shift to. Excluding people from South America and Oceania during the beta doesn't "hurt" Taleworlds, really. But excluding those same people(and the many, many more who didn't sign up for beta testing) from a service that might be the pivotal factor deciding purchases is a clear financial blunder.

I've been ranting for a bit but all I really mean to say is that I think you can have slightly higher expectations for early access if for no other reason than that it is in Taleworld's financial interests to meet expectations, unlike during the beta.

I keep frantically checking the forum for some confirmation that we're gonna get servers... or at least a date of when we can expect them. Waiting for this game for so long and yes sure, i'll love and enjoy SP, but MP competitive is where my friends and I can really get into it. You make a great point about beta vs EA.

 

[Aplasticbag]

come on dont **** us like this we are all ready on fire and now we are flooding and now no aus servers for us?

 

[daniel99]

I'm on board with your dissatisfaction for sure. I mostly mean to suggest that what there was to say has already been said and whatever will happen will happen regardless of continuing the discussion.
Lack of communication does hurt, but I mean look at which developer we're discussing and what game we're anticipating. I think it's unsurprising how little has been communicated. Again, this isn't good, but it is to be expected at this point.

Beyond that, I do disagree with your doomsday predictions, I think you're overestimating the problem. There is a massive difference between servers during the beta and servers during early access. Like I said, beta invitations are literally that; invitations. It seems exclusionary for sure but nobody is inherently entitled to receive an invitation.

But early access is completely different. Instead of Taleworlds excluding certain populations out of convenience as with the beta, to not have prepared servers for all regions when all regions will suddenly overnight come to include paying customers is a bit of an extreme possibility.
The beta isn't a service being provided to the audience(mostly, at least), it is supposed to be the opposite; a chance for the players to provide their testing services to the developer.
When the game finally does begin to sell, that relationship becomes appropriately flipped. Customers are paying for services, and for those services to be missing would be particularly egregious. I mentioned refunds being a possibility, which is the arena that things will shift to. Excluding people from South America and Oceania during the beta doesn't "hurt" Taleworlds, really. But excluding those same people(and the many, many more who didn't sign up for beta testing) from a service that might be the pivotal factor deciding purchases is a clear financial blunder.

I've been ranting for a bit but all I really mean to say is that I think you can have slightly higher expectations for early access if for no other reason than that it is in Taleworld's financial interests to meet expectations, unlike during the beta.

I get what you're saying, but I still think there is good cause (more than good cause) to assume we wont be getting servers when EA comes out. Callum said they would look into it at a "later date." Beyond that he has given no indication that we will be getting them upon EA release or even later in EA. I honestly think Taleworlds will be so pressed just to get the game out in a decent state that they will have very little time to look into AU servers.

I would also debate there still is good cause to keep this thread alive, as Taleworlds has a tendency to neglect things that aren't literally shoved into their face. Just look at how hard it was to get a number of the more important changes in the Beta. Things were often completely ignored until numerous people were spamming posts about it. If we don't constantly remind them that we exist they will just end up doing what most game companies do--put us on the back shelf and focus on something else.

Again, Callum is quite welcome to correct me and tell us we will be getting servers upon EA release. However, unless he does so, I see no reason to assume we will be getting them.

 

[Callum]

Still no word just yet on which regions we will support with multiplayer servers at the start of EA. As soon as I know, I will make an announcement about it.

 

[daniel99]

Still no word just yet on which regions we will support with multiplayer servers at the start of EA. As soon as I know, I will make an announcement about it.

Thank you Callum, gives us some hope at least.

 

[Arctanas]

Still no word just yet on which regions we will support with multiplayer servers at the start of EA. As soon as I know, I will make an announcement about it.

Thanks for the response Callum.

 

[RDP]

RDP the headshot king here, i know its too late too consider launching with an australian server but please add it soon as i fear many will buy it not knowing it will not support OCE players and the playerbase will die off before the servers are added. This happens with every decent game in australia and i am absolutely over it... part of the reason our player base isnt growing is because nobody wants to support us so we give up even showing interest on games before they are out, i am guilty of this.. i will buy a game and realise we have no server so bam uninstall and forget about it.. please dont let this happen to the passionate australian players who have been waiting 10 years for this amazing game.

 

[RDP]

Also.. releasing this game as early access when its taken this long, the graphics are already outdated by 10 years, how have companies not learnt by now that releasing games as early access or beta is a horrible idea. Do you really expect people to take the early access and beta **** seriously these days, we judge it straight away now, if its incomplete even though its "early access" we will still give you bad reviews...here you go have half the game for full price... enjoy!

 

[Gerhart Vondrivesabus]

The OCE Community in its Hay-day was some of the best online multiplayer community experiences I have ever had. I know I speak for a bunch of us when I say that part of the hype of bannerlord is gathering the old troops and clans for a second go of it.

Long live RAWR clan!

 

[Mal the moose]

As a fella who just happens to be huge fan of Mount and Blade original, and owner of Mount and blade Warband, I feel it would be pretty nasty to not have a oceania server. Since we have been nearly a decade in waiting for Bannerlord to come out!

 

[Dredd.]

Yeah there are lots of players who have been waiting for a decade.

 

[RDP]

The OCE Community in its Hay-day was some of the best online multiplayer community experiences I have ever had. I know I speak for a bunch of us when I say that part of the hype of bannerlord is gathering the old troops and clans for a second go of it.

Long live RAWR clan!

The throwing wep king!

 

[Mal the moose]

I keep frantically checking the forum for some confirmation that we're gonna get servers... or at least a date of when we can expect them. Waiting for this game for so long and yes sure, i'll love and enjoy SP, but MP competitive is where my friends and I can really get into it. You make a great point about beta vs EA.

This guys just another RAWR peon!

 

[Callum]

Also.. releasing this game as early access when its taken this long, the graphics are already outdated by 10 years, how have companies not learnt by now that releasing games as early access or beta is a horrible idea. Do you really expect people to take the early access and beta **** seriously these days, we judge it straight away now, if its incomplete even though its "early access" we will still give you bad reviews...here you go have half the game for full price... enjoy!

The game will be released in an early access state, meaning that it isn't feature complete. If you want a fully finished game then we would strongly advise you to hold on to your money until the full-release.

Likewise, if you are concerned about servers being offered in your region, then hold off on your purchase until you know for a fact that your region has server support.

 

[Arctanas]

The game will be released in an early access state, meaning that it isn't feature complete. If you want a fully finished game then we would strongly advise you to hold on to your money until the full-release.

Likewise, if you are concerned about servers being offered in your region, then hold off on your purchase until you know for a fact that your region has server support.

I personally am happy to just get my hands on the game. I'm fine with supporting the game through EA as it improves and slowly becomes the game we all want rather than wait another year or two for the full release. Early access lets us enjoy the game now and give valuable feedback rather than just sitting here trying to waste time until the eventual release.

Oceanic servers will really help with that, personally I think the bugs/flaws/problems with the game are nowhere near as relevant to me as actually being able to play the game in multiplayer.. besides maybe the combat system.