Peasant revolts

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Cyborg Eastern European

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I searched for this topic and I was amazed that no one remembered this:
Where the hell are the CENSORED rebelling peasants???
At the time of wars they were even more happy to revolt because ''They're paying for that stinking army and when the other army raids them they get no help''!!!
And don't tell me that's not true because Turks were very happy to raid the territory past Croatia(I live in Slovenia) and revolts because of the Turkish raids weren't rare (just historic facts).

What I'd like:
-About 20-80& larger (than other parties) Rebeling peasant parties with weak peasants (rocks, farming tools...),
-Revolts could capture cities like castles (EXAMPLE:Rivacheg 300 peasants),
-When cities captured city counts run away and then you can go to talk to him where he says:
  Please PLAYERNAME help recapture my city...
-Special parties dispatched to the rebelling city for recapture (and torture of the traitors),
-If there is a rebelion breaking out in the city (Rivacheg (40) vs rebellion (100) you can help anyone(if neutral), the count(on the city's side) or the rebels(if on the city's enemy side),
-You can only enter the captured city peacefully IF you aren't on the city's former owner's side (Vegir rebels' city:
can't enther--Vaegir
can enter-----neutral,Swadian).
 

An4Sh

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Different cultures and morals?
Forgot about the old text, the Vaegirs are revolting Swadians(lower class) so really, why would peasants revolt against them selves?
I don't recall revolting peasants revolting on them selves  :wink:.
 

calandale

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I don't buy that idea. They seem very different cultures. Maybe have farmers get pissed off once they get to a certain size, and have them go rampage?
 

An4Sh

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They seem different because the Vaegirs can't afford expensive sh*t like the rich "Swadians" I think.
 

Cajesar

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I think peasant revolts would be pretty cool, unless the Vaegirs really are the lower class breaking off of the swadians. I really would like to see where that is written.

Btw, An4sh, put Fanthor on your list... :grin:
 

bluhagin

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i wouldnt find it very cool to be slaughtered by 300 peasants... or see 300 peasants, they're ugly.. and furthermore annoying gnats that cant hit for ****...whoops i mean crap. :neutral:
 

Cyborg Eastern European

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The were more than just 300 peasants in revolts.
Actually bluhagin you'd be fighting walking dummies that kill a unit or two every 50 casualty...

AND if the Veagir would be rebelling Swadians they would not have half of the map AND they'd be destroyed in a matter of days.
WHY:
-Real revolts had even 300 leaders.
-They weren't organised (some wanted home ofter the first victory).
-AND they had farming tools (the Vaegir have swords and knights when only peasant leaders had horses).
 

Serak

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I am resurrecting this topic. Because I want to see  this idea implemented in M&B2  Bannerlord. Come from the past and raise death topic!
 

ThePinkPanzer

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Medieval surfs almost never rebelled due to being raised to see the king as god and to be content with their position. No from me.
 

Serak

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_Tyler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ball_(priest)
Theese are medieval peasantry revolts in England. As I know there is a peasantry revolt in Ottoman History as known ''Sheik Badraddin Rebellion (in Medieval Age) .
 

ThePinkPanzer

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Serak said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_Tyler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ball_(priest)
Theese are medieval peasantry revolts in England. As I know there is a peasantry revoltin Ottoman History as known ''Sheik Badraddin Rebellion (in Medieval Age) .
You can not count John Ball since he helped in the same rebellion Wat helped in.

That rebellion was not a norm, and it was practically unheard of at the time.
 

Serak

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Jakob Zaborowski said:
Serak said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat_Tyler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ball_(priest)
Theese are medieval peasantry revolts in England. As I know there is a peasantry revoltin Ottoman History as known ''Sheik Badraddin Rebellion (in Medieval Age) .
You can not count John Ball since he helped in the same rebellion Wat helped in.

That rebellion was not a norm, and it was practically unheard of at the time.

matter is not number of peasant revolts. These are only a few samples I could find in a minute. There are other rebbellions like flanders's.

Norm?? Unheard or heard there are peasant revolts in medieval history. Your arguments became meaningless. I don't understand your purpose. Are you trying to make spam and getting to higher forum rank. message count doesn't effect your rank.
 

ThePinkPanzer

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What? So if some one does not agree with your silly suggestion they are spamming? Calm down dude.

My point stands, there are only a handful of peasant revolts of any size in medieval history. If they are put in Bannerlord in the way they were in real life, they would only be about once for one town on the map.
 

Serak

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A handfull of peasant can join a leader with other handfull of peasants. If many ''a handfull of peasant'' groups unite with other a handfull peasant they become a very strong group like many events in history.
 

FrisianDude

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Jakob Zaborowski said:
Medieval surfs almost never rebelled due to being raised to see the king as god and to be content with their position. No from me.
all of that is wrong, yet your basic point of 'there weren't many large scale peasant revolts' seems correct.
 

ThePinkPanzer

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FrisianDude said:
Jakob Zaborowski said:
Medieval surfs almost never rebelled due to being raised to see the king as god and to be content with their position. No from me.
all of that is wrong, yet your basic point of 'there weren't many large scale peasant revolts' seems correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_right_of_kings
 

FrisianDude

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The divine right/droit divine idea didn't come to fruition till after the middle ages, though. Even says in your link;

The theory came to the fore in England under the reign of James I of England (1603–1625, also known as James VI of Scotland 1567–1625). Louis XIV of France (1643–1715) strongly promoted the theory as well.
  :razz: It was part of what would become 'the new monarchs' who became far more centralizing (than their medieval counterparts) and going against their own aristocracies (often to gain the support of a malcontent middle class of merchants) in order to make their own position stronger by weakening feudalism thus enforcing unity in their own realms.