PC games to get ideas from

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..Is Conqueror AD 1082 (I think it's called). By Sierra, mid 90's. I played it a lot and I think there were some pretty cool ideas. Unfortunately the game was rushed out half-completed and the melee combat sucked, kinda like doom/wolfenstein clone with swords.

It had a nice system for building your own castle kind of like sim city. You built your different buildings, bean, corn, etc fields, mills to make bread, taverns, guard towers, etc. The size and design of your castle had an effect on the battles you fought, the number and quality of troops, your reputation etc.

You had tournaments every month and you could go before the start bet on yourself or flirt with one of the noble ladies who'd give you her scarf (so you fight 'in her honor') - a few basic conversation options. Go to the pub and talk to other knights, find out about the intrigues, get quests etc. Eventually you could get married (sometimes had to perform a quest, talk to the father whatever).

You could go to war but careful of alliances and who's who's vassal. If you beat a guy he'd become your vassal and give you x number of troops, some money. You won the game either by hunting down a dragon (I never found him) or getting enough power to challenge the King in London and murder him in his palace.

Don't remember the other stuff. Oh yeah there was a character generation system similar to what I suggested here - kind of the same as the Elder Scrolls game where each year from 12 to 18 you have one situation/dilemma you have to choose a response to.

There was also a personality trait thing that had an impact on the game. You had sliders from evil to chivalrous, greedy to generous, etc etc. NPCs liked you disliked you accordingly.

Anyway I thought I'd mention this game. Could be a source of inspiration.

I think you can download this from..

http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=2545

review
http://www.worldvillage.com/wv/gamezone/html/reviews/conq.htm
 
I don't remember this game, so thanks for the links. The download page calls it the sucessor to "Defender of the Crown" which was one of my all time favourites...

Lords of the Realm was a pretty good game too :)

Downloading it now, wonder if it will run on XPpro...
 
GonZ said:
I don't remember this game, so thanks for the links. The download page calls it the sucessor to "Defender of the Crown" which was one of my all time favourites...

Lords of the Realm was a pretty good game too :)

Downloading it now, wonder if it will run on XPpro...

I used DosBox, which is a program you can download from www.abandonia.com Normally it worked with Windows 95.

I tried to get it to work though not for very long. My problem was that it requires a CD... had to create a virtual drive in DosBox but I think I misunderstood the instructions.

But that was a while ago. Maybe they've added a patch.
 
A game that would be good for getting ideas from would be Soldier of fortune 2 (for hit detection location and Damage)

Kings Quest series (amazing stories look at the newer ones)

Total War games (combat strategy and formations)

road to hill 30 (Order system group control)
 
Last Armageddon

It's a Japanese RPG in 90's. It has a very unique settings and ideas.

It was set in apocalypus (spelling's definitely wrong!) earth. All human race was exterminated by massive nuclea war. You're a monster, finally came out to the surface to dominate your planet. But there're aliens also tried to colonise the planet.
You controll 12 monsters (Goblin, Orc, Gargoyle, Skeleton etc) in to 3 time-based party (Day, night, the destruction Day of Salliban) and kill aliens. Great thing was when they reached a certain level, you can combined some characters to make whole new monsters.

It was very interesting idea and made me an allergic to 'Orc = evil = kill' games and stories.
 
Liesure Suit Larry

Think of all the princesses you could try to trick your way into bed with *joking*

Though dating characters till you finally marry one might be a nice idea,
a la Sid Meyer's recent Pirates game. I loved the dancing, I'm pretty good at it!

Europe 1400 or something like that,
that's a neat game, kinda a crafting/political/marriage sim. It'd be interesting if M&B had such a system where you could get into political life in the midieval ages and try to rise to the top, would be another aspect of the game beyond just the combat, but perhaps would be too different from what is already there.
 
Here's another thread on same subject: http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1926&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=kingdom+fire

Basically, suggests possible ideas/etc that might be applied in M&B.

Also, it need not be restricted to Medieval, sword-fighting games.

For example, I often suggest that the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas PC game has some interesting ideas that could be imitated here;

* the player buys houses in different towns where he could store his extra gear (& the "house" in M&B could be a variation of the inventory screen for simplicity's sake)

* the player acquires stats detailing his accomplishments,kills, missions, reputation, insane stunts, stamina, etc. (many have already suggested the relevant stats for M&B)

* the "sprint" ability in GTA San Andreas could be implemented here for that momentary burst of speed.

So, any genre could potentially have a simple or elegant model that could be imitated here.
 
JohnathanStrange said:
* the player buys houses in different towns where he could store his extra gear (& the "house" in M&B could be a variation of the inventory screen for simplicity's sake)

partially sounds like my idea in the castle's thread mister potter :D


ryuta

what about last armageddon would you like in m&b?
i don't think they are going to change the theme to post apocalyptic fantasy. that would meen changing the complete story. (idea for a mod????)
or do you mean a different aspect of the game (because it is a nice game.) please be specific about this because it's been ages since i've seen it.
 
my 2 bits:

Patrician 2 (or was it 3?) where u can trade, build supply houses, industries and even agriculture.

Uncharted Waters:New Horizons - amazing game - very similar.
 
fuzzbang said:
my 2 bits:

Patrician 2 (or was it 3?) where u can trade, build supply houses, industries and even agriculture.

Uncharted Waters:New Horizons - amazing game - very similar.
I think it was Patrician 2 - although if there's a Patrician 3 out, I doubt they would've taken out trade and buildings, etc.

Port Royale 2 (if i recall correctly) had some RPG elements wrapped up in it; maybe useful?
 
Patrician 3...excellent game...the mightier you get, the more options are opened up for you and the more responsability you get...
 
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