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Patch Notes v1.2.10-1.2.11
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Gadheras
Squire
Now imagine if no one did report bugs and issues at all. How would your game fare then? I get it, some people just want to sit with their bag of cheetos, yellow fingers and scream at the screen. So good luck with that.
Lipbalmplease
Don't even have Cheetos in my country but eh...good one..I guess? Imagine you actually reading my response, instead of deflecting from it and retorting with a South Park-esk insult about...Cheetos.
Gadheras
Squire
Re-read the very start of the OP in this thread. Now see people cry about whatever bugs this beta patch did bring, without any actually been brought forward seems pointless, no? Will there be any? probably, but unless someone play the beta and find out, how would we know right?
Lipbalmplease
I'm assuming you're American judging by your Cheetos remark, so I'm going to break this down for you in a way that a typical American may understand, by comparing the game to a car.
If I sold you a brand new Ford truck for full price and told you that the truck isn't fully fitted out with the back seats and the air-con doesn't work - yet, but take the truck away for now and we will get those upgrades (that should have already been working/installed) put in right away. You take the car out for its first spin only to find out 5miles down the road, the wheel has fallen off.
You bring the car back into them and they say, "thank you very much, other customers have said the same thing, we will fix this up right away and get it back to you." This is essentially the bug report system.
After fixing the wheel, you take it out of the shop, only for the airbag to go off randomly 5miles down the road and the check engine light has also come on. You bring it back in. This time they take longer to fix it. Next time you take it out the tail lights blow, oil is leaking from the undercarriage and a different wheel pops right off. You then....take it back in, and the time they take to fix the problems grows exponentially to the amount of times you bring it in.
Now imagine this happening over and over and over again, with the time taking to fix the problems ever increasing.
The process seems to be, that every time you take the car back to the shop for a repair, something new breaks. The people who sold you the car keep just tinkering with the latest faults they just created and you still haven't even gotten your god damn air-con in the car and you still missing you back seats. When you even dare to ask them about the air-con or the back seats, or even when they will fix the car this time, they run into the back room and shut the door.
Someone then on the street then tells you, "hey, just keep driving the car. If you don't drive it, how will they know what they should and shouldn't fix." - this is you. This is your argument..do you see how silly that is now that I've explained it to you in American terms?
You bought the car because it's a Ford and they hold some reputation behind them (at least in my country) and we're ensured that they were going to really just be adding features to the truck, not spend the next four years begging their customers to '"just keep driving so we can **** about fixing check engine lights". It's not your responsibility as the customer to continually report problems. Sure you're happy to do it every now and then, but at some point you're going to want to be able to just drive the damn thing with everything that was promised and without worrying what is it going to be today that causes the car to crash.
stix09
Recruit
the 1.2 BETA branch released in June 2023,
but the released version 1.2.7 came out in DEC 2023
Patch Notes v1.2.7
Patch v1.2.7 has been released to Live and is now available via Steam, Epic, GoG, and PlayStation Consoles. Barring unforeseen issues, the Xbox build (Microsoft PC Store and Consoles) will follow after its ongoing certification is concluded. The release includes all prior Beta versions from...
forums.taleworlds.com
The beta branch is the still in dev testing version
but then some would say game itself is still beta...
There we have it. The nail in the coffin.
Game is dead
Gadheras
Squire
A car compared to a 40 bucks game, is a bad ciomparison. And no, I'm not from the US, I'm closer to the North Pole.... but hey. how does driving around in your game work out for you? How many hours you played this game so far? Just curious....
Good fixes. Too bad this will likely break 70% of the mods I'm using, then it's another year off the game. Sad to see that a lot of the modding community has also left the game because of so many mod-breaking updates - don't get me wrong, most mods are workarounds, so actually fixing stuff is good, but then you begin to wonder why so much stuff needed workarounds and then you get sad at all the potential seeping away...
Will keep my hopes up for 1.3, whenever it comes.
Will keep my hopes up for 1.3, whenever it comes.
I am really starting to believe TW pays for trolls to simp for them
It's kind of pathetic how a patch solely about bug/crash fixes requires a 'beta' branch to it.
Is this just TW doing some bs mandatory 'update' to pretend like work is being done? So 2 months from now, when all they'll do is turn this 1.2.10 to 'live' and say "lookie, we did do work last 4 months, WYM. Also, 1.3 is still cooking"
Is this just TW doing some bs mandatory 'update' to pretend like work is being done? So 2 months from now, when all they'll do is turn this 1.2.10 to 'live' and say "lookie, we did do work last 4 months, WYM. Also, 1.3 is still cooking"
Actually, going by his post history his response is more "how many hours did you drive the car? You got to drive it, that means you got your money's worth." Or "You're such a whiner, you should be thankful they're working on the car at all, most companies don't fix them after they've hit the road."
Lipbalmplease
I've probably played the game in total about 10 hours without mods and that is when I am just testing a new "big" patch or when I first started the game. So even by his logic, I haven't even gotten my moneys worth as at the end of the day, it is suppose to be an RPG.
Its like Baldur's Gate 3 releasing without most of its of the dialogue options to which we then have to rely on modders to implement.
even though signals of new features in a "1.3" patch exist, this modern expectation of games to just be updated forever for free doesnt make a lot of sense, especially for singleplayer games like this with no micro-transactions. This is at the moment a complete, well made game, without an excessive amount of bugs and crashes, even if we all would want a few things the least to be added or made better. But the fact that people feel the entitlement and have the audacity to complain when we still get bug fixes (and likely new content too) over 2 years in is "just wow"
I think everyone would be fine with a DLC policy like Paradox's at this point - Just a little bit healthier.
Lipbalmplease
Kosiporka229
Recruit
We hope for the best, but it turns out as always . Aren't you tired of feeding **** to the community? When will something good come out?? We have already passed the company 109 times ... After 1.7.0, you have already stopped doing something... People make mods for you to play it , it 's a shame .
bestmods168
Sergeant at Arms
"fixed a crash that no one is experiencing."For a moment, I got excited thinking it would be a good update, but nope, just another crappy beta to fix crashes. In three months, when you finish fixing the other 100 bugs these "fixed crashes" will cause, I guess you'll start working on version 1.3.
If this is your threshold for a well-made game, sure, completely subjective; but what are your conditions then for all the other AAA studio games that have been released in the past decade? Those must all be absolute masterpieces by comparison then.
Lipbalmplease
While we still have two bugs that completely take you out of the game and they refuse to acknowledge:
- Coming across lords with tits and wearing a dress;
- Male and females voice lines getting mixed up randomly.
Both not new issues, and both things that should have been extremely easy to avoid if they knew how to develop a game.
Remember when they spent like a year refactoring the game and everyone was like "oh man once they do this is going to be feature after feature coming down the line."
