Patch Notes v1.2.10-1.2.11

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They can't even announce a single thing that will be a part of this 1.3 patch; let alone ETA.
It's not even just about keeping secret, if they will (as they said) let us know once they know more about it and that's been their stance for ~1 year now. Sort of implies they have nothing to show, because there's nothing to tell still.
 
Dear developers of this wonderful and underdeveloped game, do not bother to tell us or at least hint to expect from you something good at all? Will you manage this year, when you have been working for a very long time or next year, who knows when? It's hard to answer your fans! If the update will be only with fixes and adding 5-6 pieces of armor, weapons, etc. and will not change anything global in terms of: diplomacy, dynasty, trade, perks, banditry, events in the world, invasion of hordes of pirates, peaceful income, the creation of their troops, the initiation of a companion in the knight, transferring to the wife / husband possession or switching for whom to play ! Well then you can stop doing nonsense and give the development to those people who with a soul create mods ! Pendor's prophecy is better than the game itself.
 
Dear developers of this wonderful and underdeveloped game, do not bother to tell us or at least hint to expect from you something good at all? Will you manage this year, when you have been working for a very long time or next year, who knows when? It's hard to answer your fans! If the update will be only with fixes and adding 5-6 pieces of armor, weapons, etc. and will not change anything global in terms of: diplomacy, dynasty, trade, perks, banditry, events in the world, invasion of hordes of pirates, peaceful income, the creation of their troops, the initiation of a companion in the knight, transferring to the wife / husband possession or switching for whom to play ! Well then you can stop doing nonsense and give the development to those people who with a soul create mods ! Pendor's prophecy is better than the game itself.
Elaborate on giving the development to someone else :smile:
 
The time that has passed since the last patch (no hotfixes) is probably enough for the development cycle of the average game on early access.
It's difficult to accept that they are still not even "close enough" to be able to reveal "anything" of what will be in it, let alone the whole patch notes. Hard to imagine how far still we are from seeing anything being released.

It would be well worth the wait if it was massive overhaul of pretty much the whole game, but it's puzzling to think that we are probably looking at claimant quests, bug fixes and possibly new textures/other minor stuff.

I check these forums very occasionally and I am always shocked to find out that there's zero news whatsoever.

Appreciate it's not Piconi's or anyone else that bothers posting on these forums fault, but the lack of communication is as bad as the time it takes to release a patch in the making for ages.
If at least a couple of years ago they would have just said "we do plan one last update, but keep in mind it will take years" nobody would have had to waste time checking here.
 
The time that has passed since the last patch (no hotfixes) is probably enough for the development cycle of the average game on early access.
It's difficult to accept that they are still not even "close enough" to be able to reveal "anything" of what will be in it, let alone the whole patch notes. Hard to imagine how far still we are from seeing anything being released.

It would be well worth the wait if it was massive overhaul of pretty much the whole game, but it's puzzling to think that we are probably looking at claimant quests, bug fixes and possibly new textures/other minor stuff.

I check these forums very occasionally and I am always shocked to find out that there's zero news whatsoever.

Appreciate it's not Piconi's or anyone else that bothers posting on these forums fault, but the lack of communication is as bad as the time it takes to release a patch in the making for ages.
If at least a couple of years ago they would have just said "we do plan one last update, but keep in mind it will take years" nobody would have had to waste time checking here.
You my friend use words very wisely, but still have no clue what you are talking about, avarage development cycle for a game on early access can vary from 1 day to infinity. Check Star Citizen for example :smile: +Bannerlord is not an early access game since 2022 if i'm not wrong

Correct, its hard to accept, but you must. This is not game as SERVICE, so you've actually gotten what you've payed for (the game as barebones or whatever you want to call it).


Your last sentence is the reason, why developers should keep quite for as long as possible!
 
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That's why I said average, because when it can vary so much, you need to look at the bigger picture instead of the exceptions.
So long as there's plenty that take that amount of time, my point stands.

Bannerlord is no longer considered in EA, despite feeling like it still should, but that's beyond the point. What's your point about it.
Regardless of whether it's still in EA or not, it's a ridiculously long time for a patch to be "in the works".

It doesn't matter if there's a few more examples you can think of where the same or worse have happened. If we are to be happy with a bad service/product just because there are others that are even worse, we are doomed to an ever ending spiral of terrible services and products ahead of us.

I have accepted it since a long time ago, after seeing in what state it left EA. It wasn't a good purchase unfortunately, it happens and I accepted it.
Doesn't mean I have to be happy about it or I can't be vocal about it though.

About the last sentence, why? You said it yourself, it's not a game as service. They don't need to keep their fan base happy to make sure they keep paying up. We have all already paid up. Whether they tell to our face "we are done with the game" or not, they got their money in the bank already.

I would have appreciated much more, as a customer, if they told me "we aren't capable of finishing/making this game any better, sorry for not being able to fully deliver on our promises, we'll try to make something better next time around", I would have been more inclined to give them a chance with their next game, whereas right now, with how they have behaved so far since the release in EA and after the EA, there's no way I am buying their next game, especially in EA or as soon as it releases.
Possibly if (I doubt it very much) it ends up being a masterpiece when it's on sale.

I don't think the way they communicate has done them any good reputationally.
 
Whether they tell to our face "we are done with the game" or not...
The time that has passed since the last patch (no hotfixes) is probably enough for the development cycle of the average game on early access.
There is an answer to these in this very thread:
As we noted in the release plans, while we intend to continue supporting the title, it has ultimately been fully released. Any further base game updates we make will as such likely have a greater period between them.
To clarify, "fully released" here does not mean discontinued support, but rather going out of early access into a full release. Updates will continue, though likely with more time between them, as stated.
 
There is an answer to these in this very thread:

To clarify, "fully released" here does not mean discontinued support, but rather going out of early access into a full release. Updates will continue, though likely with more time between them, as stated.
Sure, and "fully released" also does not mean a finished product or complete game or bugfree or missing content or WIP placeholders still to be done too I guess.
 
There is an answer to these in this very thread:

To clarify, "fully released" here does not mean discontinued support, but rather going out of early access into a full release. Updates will continue, though likely with more time between them, as stated.
Can we expect 1.3 in this year or not?
 
There is an answer to these in this very thread:

To clarify, "fully released" here does not mean discontinued support, but rather going out of early access into a full release. Updates will continue, though likely with more time between them, as stated.
You must know that there are still tons of bugs in this game, some of which have been marked by Community Supporters as "Resolved". Many of those bugs may be posted months or more than a year ago. If a new content patch still needs more time, how about these bugs? How many months or years are needed to push those fixes for those bugs found long ago to release?
 
There is an answer to these in this very thread:

To clarify, "fully released" here does not mean discontinued support, but rather going out of early access into a full release. Updates will continue, though likely with more time between them, as stated.
Going from "months" to "years" when referring to the waiting time to see the game update released can technically be considered as "more time" just like you said sure, just like I could say that the sun will one day explode given "more time".

What is reasonable to expect as a waiting time for a game update I suppose will vary from a customer to another and from a company to another.

As previously stated, I would have rather been told 2 years ago "expect game updates to be out every couple of years on average" rather than "next update is in the works but can't share any details atm", building false hype and hope about something being actively developed and closer to be released than it proved to be in hindsight.

But the company you work for seem to be satisfied with this way of communication and we can only accept it for what it is.
As said, nothing against you personally, a shame it has to be this way.
 
Just see how you guys act, the guy told you they are working on it. They are not in a hurry. And all he got was "unfinished product" rant, going from months to years in waiting time. No wonder why they don't want to communicate with you guys. If it was the other way around you'd the same, trust me! The guy above me even stated he would prefer to wait 2 years, man you are going to wait for 2 years, knowing it or not won't change a thing. In fact if you knew you'd have wait for two years, you'd rant even more.
 
You must know that there are still tons of bugs in this game, some of which have been marked by Community Supporters as "Resolved". Many of those bugs may be posted months or more than a year ago. If a new content patch still needs more time, how about these bugs? How many months or years are needed to push those fixes for those bugs found long ago to release?
many of those have a comment stating - This will be included in future releases/patches or whatever. Future as in anytime between now and whenever.
 
Just see how you guys act, the guy told you they are working on it. They are not in a hurry. And all he got was "unfinished product" rant, going from months to years in waiting time. No wonder why they don't want to communicate with you guys. If it was the other way around you'd the same, trust me! The guy above me even stated he would prefer to wait 2 years, man you are going to wait for 2 years, knowing it or not won't change a thing. In fact if you knew you'd have wait for two years, you'd rant even more.
I am sure you'd rather wait for a girl to make up her mind about you for years while she keeps telling you that she doesn't want to see you or hear from you, but if you just stick around "more time" at some point she might want to see you, rather than being told that she was actually not really interested since the beginning.
Because my point was: had I been told the patch was 2 years away, I wouldn't have wasted time caring about the state of this unfinished fully released game and simply moved on. Which at some point you end up doing obviously as it becomes clear what the situation really is, but it would have been nice to be told so since the beginning, gives a far better impression of the company to me. You are entitled your opinion but please don't pretend to know what I would do or not. You don't. At most you are free to assume it, just like I did at the beginning of this post :wink:
 
I am sure you'd rather wait for a girl to make up her mind about you for years while she keeps telling you that she doesn't want to see you or hear from you, but if you just stick around "more time" at some point she might want to see you, rather than being told that she was actually not really interested since the beginning.
Because my point was: had I been told the patch was 2 years away, I wouldn't have wasted time caring about the state of this unfinished fully released game and simply moved on. Which at some point you end up doing obviously as it becomes clear what the situation really is, but it would have been nice to be told so since the beginning, gives a far better impression of the company to me. You are entitled your opinion but please don't pretend to know what I would do or not. You don't. At most you are free to assume it, just like I did at the beginning of this post :wink:

If you value a girl the same as you do a computer game, you really got bigger issues than waiting for a patch for a game. What keep you from finish the game though? I completed the campaign several times.
 
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