Patch 1.006 melee

[LittleGuy]

Of course is possible. Or things has changed in 1.006.
Couched lance has less range anyway, so you can out range it by good timed thrust as well.

I'm not sure if you read my whole post or not, but I did mention that could hit it first, though it usually doesn't matter as medium horses will live through a bayonet thrust most of the time.

 

[Alma69]

Horse head hit?
In my exp thay die in one hit mostly head or torse, but maybe things has changed a little. I think it is mantioned somewhare that bayo has less demage now. Id ont have yet exp with new patch but all i see sounds great.

 

[Oposum]

2. The glancing stun. No, it's not really a stun, however when you (and you will) glance that enemy you are unable to re-chamber your weapon, or bring your weapon up to block for what seems like an eternity. Certainly long enough for your enemy to chamber his own weapon and skewer you. It happened to me several times today, and I have since re-adapted to jousting in and out of melee range instead of getting close and fighting my enemy toe-to-toe.

This is really old bug or feature from native. It seems that when you glance stabs at close ranges you are stunned for the amount of time stab animation would take to finish (or the time which is needed for animation from start to end, starting countdown when you glance) and are unable to block during it.

3. Horses no longer rearing in front. I realize this isn't technically a melee problem, but you're using a melee weapon when it happens. Coupled with the shortened bayonet, this means two things. One, you can't stop a heavy horse when it comes to knock you over in melee, even if you hit it. And two, lancers no longer have much to fear attacking you from the front, even if you're paying attention. (Not to mention lancers can *still* couch a lance through their horses head) So now even if you hit the horses head first with your bayonet, which is doubtful, the lance will still couch you and kill you. Even if you're perfectly lined up with the horses head, you cannot defend against the couch any way besides scrambling out of the way. This for me is the big one.

Lancers couching you when you kill their horses also happened before. I had it happen tons of times, when inf guy would kill my horse but by some quirk of RNG god my couched lance would kill them.
As for heavy horse, bayonet hitting horses head will 1 hit kill even heavy horse.

 

[tomtucker]

Sounds like you guys are bad with melee and want EZ-mode back.

 

[McEwanMaster77]

Sounds like you guys are bad with melee and want EZ-mode back.

Cut the "you're bad at melee" BS. Doesn't help.

 

[LittleGuy]

Sounds like you guys are bad with melee and want EZ-mode back.

Oh man, you sure caught me. I guess I'm just bad at melee. Nevermind guys, disregard everything I posted. I'm just bad.

 

[MaHuD]

@littleguy,

I have been insta killing horses a lot, even with the sappers axe. I am not sure if lancers are actually safe to charge at the front.
Heavy horses I will agree with you, but there should be some bonus to being heavy then right?

 

[Deofuta]

Sounds like you guys are bad with melee and want EZ-mode back.

Oh man, you sure caught me. I guess I'm just bad at melee. Nevermind guys, disregard everything I posted. I'm just bad.

Isn't that what the B in your name stands for? Baddie.

 

[Noudelle]

Sounds like you guys are bad with melee and want EZ-mode back.

Oh man, you sure caught me. I guess I'm just bad at melee. Nevermind guys, disregard everything I posted. I'm just bad.

hehe i feel the same too mate... retards everywhere...

for my part :  this patch tottaly ruined NW for me... it was pure awesomness when it came out but the more it went, the worse it got...

so goodbye NW community! we'll meet in M&B Caribbeans! with better melee mechanics when it!

 

[LedZeppelin]

With this latest patch it's sad to say that the devs must make a decision. If the patch is not reversed there is a good chance at least a quarter of the loyal veterans of the game will leave. If the patch is reversed perhaps a few not so veteran members will leave, but I'd personally say we need our veterans more than our noobs. You know something is wrong when butter knives have become the preferred weapon of most of the experienced me-leers. What this patch essentially did was make everyone the same, no longer can any one person really shine because of the slow speed of the attacks and the impossible recovery time of a blocked up stab. When there is no such thing as being a player who can take on 7 people and win, people start to loose ambition to get better because everyone is already pretty much equal thus making the game repetitive and boring.

If this gets to the devs, please reconsider because in the long run you're only further speeding up the process of Napoleonic Wars dying.

Sources: Essentially all the veterans/good meleers of the game.

 

[Spain]

Real veterans adapt to the new patch.

 

[McEwanMaster77]

Complaining thread number 4...

It's not even worth it to make an argument.

 

[LedZeppelin]

Real veterans adapt to the new patch.

Probably, which is why I said about a quarter of the veterans will leave.

 

[LedZeppelin]

Honestly guys if I could just be given a valid reason as to why the good players should be nerfed to such an extent perhaps I could change my mind.

 

[Evelyn]

And who are you to speak for the veteran players? Furthermore, calling yourself a "veteran player" of NW sadly.. isn't correct. You're only a "Veteran" if you were there during the days of MM. NW just isn't old enough.

 

[LtSpearing]

Complaining thread number 4...

It's not even worth it to make an argument.

^

 

[LedZeppelin]

And who are you to speak for the veteran players? Furthermore, calling yourself a "veteran player" of NW sadly.. isn't correct. You're only a "Veteran" if you were there during the days of MM. NW just isn't old enough.

I did mm a little bit but I really got into it when NW came out, and regardless of whether or not you personally consider me a veteran or not I still talk to a lot of people that are undeniably veterans which is why I have the credibility to speak for the veterans (at least for NA)

 

[LedZeppelin]

Complaining thread number 4...

It's not even worth it to make an argument.

Sorry but the only way to get our message across to the devs is to continuously make threads about this, sadly that's just the only way.

 

[Bruhlan Revan]

I very much disagree with the "Veterans will leave if patch isn't reverted back to 5 instead of 6"

I'm a Vet.....and I like the new melee system.
Even if I didn't like it I wouldn't complain.

Oh and this is bs... "Sources: Essentially all the veterans/good meleers of the game."

 

[LedZeppelin]

I very much disagree with the "Veterans will leave if patch isn't reverted back to 5 instead of 6"

I'm a Vet.....and I like the new melee system.
Even if I didn't like it I wouldn't complain.

Oh and this is bs... "Sources: Essentially all the veterans/good meleers of the game."

Who are you to say that's bs? Besides the forums obviously saying so, I've also talked to all the regulars of us1 and the high ranking officers of most of the major NA regiments.