RJK
Recruit
As far as I can tell from *searching, this is a new suggestion, and is something I've wanted to see in a game for a long time. [Edit: it may or may not be a new suggestion, depending on how you interpret Orion's post listed at the bottom of the page. Regardless, it discusses the idea in further detail.]
Basically I would like it so that when you are captured, you can be conscripted into a party that you do not control. You would be a passive member of a party on the map screen, and watch until the party engaged an enemy. You would then be required to fight that enemy with the party.
Modifiers:
1. Party goal
Obviously it would be frustrating to be in a party that aimlessly wanders, hence for this to work there would need to be some kind of party goal (e.g. a vaegir war party with a series of goals of conquest, a swadian scouting group consisting of expendable prisoners on a suicide mission);
2. Faction relations
Completing battles for the party's faction raises your relations with that faction;
3. Leading a party
When faction relations improve enough (from point #2), eventually you are allowed to lead a party. As per Orion's suggestion (if I have read it properly), you will have to carry out the orders of the faction leaders, or else your men will kill you;
4. Desertion
The ability to desert the group by escaping during a battle, with the subsequent risk of being caught in the act of escaping - by your party, or the enemy party;
5. Potential Consequences of Escape
Potential consequences (death, recapture, ransom, freedom) may occur based on a number of variables (faction relations, charisma);
6. Potential Consequences of Defeat
When your party is defeated in battle by an enemy, the personal consequences may be the same as point #5;
7. Your character level
Your character level and weapon skills may influence the kind of group you are conscripted into (e.g., if you are more skilled in crossbow, then it is more likely that you will be equipped with a crossbow and hence expected to function as a crossbowman).
In time, you gain your freedom one way or another - even if that freedom is in death (unless you consider that dying as a slave, which I suppose you will just have to live with. Or not, as the case may be).
Other things to consider:
While passive:
Should your relations with the factions that your party attack change?
Should you be able to inflict damage on your party with a bow?
Threads leading up to this suggestion:
'I want to die!' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?p=9841&highlight=captured#9841)
'DEATH' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2541&highlight=died)
'The ability to actually die' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?p=31702&highlight=captured#31702)
(risk becoming a prisoner)
'Player: Captured!' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?p=26957&highlight=captured#26957)
(Xiphos: player captured, able to escape by mad dash to tent to get equipment etc, player party continues and attempts rescue)
'Ending the game?' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1545&highlight=ending+game)
(death, capture, slave, join Dark Knights)
'Enemy heroes' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=296&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=slave&start=0)
(Ingolifs - death, capture, slave - insurrection, rebellion, join DK, vaeig/swad)
'Hi, couple suggestions' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2339&highlight=to)
(Orion - under command of crack commander, forced to carry out orders or your men kill you)
Originally during the search I read Orion's idea as though he had the assumption that you would be leading a party, since he had described it as "your men". However, "you would see orders show up on the side of your screen from time to time" could be seen as referring to the orders you get during a battle, hence implying that you are in a party lead by another.
*Keywords: passive - 5 posts; control AND party - 65 posts; forced conscript - 0 posts; forced conscription - 0 posts; captured - 71 posts.
Basically I would like it so that when you are captured, you can be conscripted into a party that you do not control. You would be a passive member of a party on the map screen, and watch until the party engaged an enemy. You would then be required to fight that enemy with the party.
Modifiers:
1. Party goal
Obviously it would be frustrating to be in a party that aimlessly wanders, hence for this to work there would need to be some kind of party goal (e.g. a vaegir war party with a series of goals of conquest, a swadian scouting group consisting of expendable prisoners on a suicide mission);
2. Faction relations
Completing battles for the party's faction raises your relations with that faction;
3. Leading a party
When faction relations improve enough (from point #2), eventually you are allowed to lead a party. As per Orion's suggestion (if I have read it properly), you will have to carry out the orders of the faction leaders, or else your men will kill you;
4. Desertion
The ability to desert the group by escaping during a battle, with the subsequent risk of being caught in the act of escaping - by your party, or the enemy party;
5. Potential Consequences of Escape
Potential consequences (death, recapture, ransom, freedom) may occur based on a number of variables (faction relations, charisma);
6. Potential Consequences of Defeat
When your party is defeated in battle by an enemy, the personal consequences may be the same as point #5;
7. Your character level
Your character level and weapon skills may influence the kind of group you are conscripted into (e.g., if you are more skilled in crossbow, then it is more likely that you will be equipped with a crossbow and hence expected to function as a crossbowman).
In time, you gain your freedom one way or another - even if that freedom is in death (unless you consider that dying as a slave, which I suppose you will just have to live with. Or not, as the case may be).
Other things to consider:
While passive:
Should your relations with the factions that your party attack change?
Should you be able to inflict damage on your party with a bow?
Threads leading up to this suggestion:
'I want to die!' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?p=9841&highlight=captured#9841)
'DEATH' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2541&highlight=died)
'The ability to actually die' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?p=31702&highlight=captured#31702)
(risk becoming a prisoner)
'Player: Captured!' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?p=26957&highlight=captured#26957)
(Xiphos: player captured, able to escape by mad dash to tent to get equipment etc, player party continues and attempts rescue)
'Ending the game?' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1545&highlight=ending+game)
(death, capture, slave, join Dark Knights)
'Enemy heroes' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=296&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=slave&start=0)
(Ingolifs - death, capture, slave - insurrection, rebellion, join DK, vaeig/swad)
'Hi, couple suggestions' (http://taleworlds.com/v-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2339&highlight=to)
(Orion - under command of crack commander, forced to carry out orders or your men kill you)
Originally during the search I read Orion's idea as though he had the assumption that you would be leading a party, since he had described it as "your men". However, "you would see orders show up on the side of your screen from time to time" could be seen as referring to the orders you get during a battle, hence implying that you are in a party lead by another.
*Keywords: passive - 5 posts; control AND party - 65 posts; forced conscript - 0 posts; forced conscription - 0 posts; captured - 71 posts.
