Open Post: Armagan, We Could Use A Video Update Addressing Our Concerns

[Mad Vader]

Any implications that Armagan himself doesn't care or isn't involved in the development are likewise very much false.

But he won't make a video explaining some of the poor design decisions, the slow pace of development and how is TW addressing these issues.
Because he's smart and knows this will blow over.

 

[StewVader]

But he won't make a video explaining some of the poor design decisions, the slow pace of development and how is TW addressing these issues.
Because he's smart and knows this will blow over.

You think it will blow over? I'm not convinced. The game would have to be improved significantly for that to happen, and based off the year of EA development, that seems impossible.

 

[Nalgasucia507]

But he won't make a video explaining some of the poor design decisions, the slow pace of development and how is TW addressing these issues.
Because he's smart and knows this will blow over.

+1. Pretty f*cking sad he won't show face. No cojones.

 

[babelfisch]

That's very much false. We care about the game and we care about our community. Your suggestions and feedback are gathered from various platforms, including this forum. These suggestions and feedback are then brought up in dedicated meetings where they’re evaluated and processed by the relevant developers.

Any implications that Armagan himself doesn't care or isn't involved in the development are likewise very much false.

I have been collecting various community game-related questions and concerns and will see if I can get an answer for them. Speaking for myself only, please feel free to tag me on our forums whenever you would like to clear up something, provide feedback on a certain feature or make a suggestion for a new one.

At this stage, I would also like to encourage you to use the relevant subforums:

• Suggestions - For all suggestions on new features or improving the current ones.
• The Keep - Singleplayer - For providing SP feedback.
• The Fields of Valour - Multiplayer - For providing MP feedback.

Thanks, but the problem is that you don't talk to us about feedback. Some very dedicated developers are doing that job in their free time, while the rest of the development team and community managers are just silent, including Armagan. I think that's the fact that sucks most. We haven't heard a single word from the big guy since launch. I am pretty sure that everyone is working hard and are doing the best they can. Armagan did a great job at creating one of my favourite games, but its success was only possible because of the community. Without us, and most importantly the modders, there would be no Bannerlord. I don't expect a reply to every post, but I didn't expect the current situation either. The least he could do would be some AMAs and QAs or questionnaires like you promised.

 

[chAOS!]

+1 all i wanna know is when are custom servers coming out, but i would be interested to hear why the game feels like its turning into battlefront 3: medieval warfare instead of warband 2.0

 

[Shillslayer]

What we need is an updated roadmap where it is very clearly stated what is being worked on, what is not being worked on but popularly requested, and what Taleworlds might work on.

It is not typical of a company CEO making a video adressing player concerns being expressed on the games forums. This just extremely rarely happens, even when warranted as in my opinion it most certainly is right now.

What the playerbase realistically should be asking for is what I detailed above.

I provided tons of feedback during Multiplayer beta, and tons of beta during first few months of Early Access. I am now back to provide even more feedback. I am doing so with the hopes that this game one day becomes good enough for me to play (I haven't played for numerous months now because the game is simply not good at all). With a roadmap, I'll know whether the game stands a chance at becoming good or not, and then I'll know whether these forums are worth my time or not.

 

[five bucks]

That's very much false. We care about the game and we care about our community. Your suggestions and feedback are gathered from various platforms, including this forum. These suggestions and feedback are then brought up in dedicated meetings where they’re evaluated and processed by the relevant developers.

I have been collecting various community game-related questions and concerns and will see if I can get an answer for them. Speaking for myself only, please feel free to tag me on our forums whenever you would like to clear up something, provide feedback on a certain feature or make a suggestion for a new one.

@Dejan then can I please ask what Taleworlds' stance is on missing Warband features:

• Civil wars
• Feasts
• Handcrafted companions who continue to interact with the player after being hired
• In-depth lord dialogue
• Deserters
• Manhunters
• Fighting your way out when failing to sneak in
• Political quests
• Lord duels
• Books
• Street battles during sieges

Some time ago you got one of the devs to look at the thread, but then no answer was ever given for these things on that list.

One of the major complaints people seem to have about Bannerlord in this thread and others, other than balance/bugs/performance complaints, is the features that Bannerlord has lost from Warband. So it would be really good to get a statement from TW on that please.

 

[Revverie]

To be honest the communication has not improved or become much worse from the Alpha testing or the Beta testing phase of the game. In fact it has stayed about the same throughout the entire process of being available to players, closed or not. The communication is pretty lackluster, I wouldn't have invested in this game if I knew the state of development and the communication with players.

Bro what are you talking about a Community Manager literally banished from the forums and never returned, has anyone seen Callum? I have made a fan fic to picture what I think it's going on, of course I'm taking some creative liberties:

The furious mob had gathered around the place, very late at night. The torches lighted up the scene and the forks' metal shone brighter than any sunshine, Callum gulped at this horrible sight, this time he was truly trapped. His heart was beating so fast, and now he could start hearing each one complaint from the voices in the mob. "Where is the castle building feature" said one on the right, who's mouth pestilence could be smelt from the distance. "Where the hell is my immersion? I am not immersed!" said a larper on the left, with his dark age custom he himself had sew. "WHY I CANT MARRY RAAEEGHEA, WHERE ARE MY MOMMY GF MILKERS!?" shouted one so loud, that everyone joined in chant "Mommy milkers, mommy milkers". This could only get worse. Callum was standing at the gate all alone, trembling, but he was hired for the job, and he was ready to talk... "Oh no" he thought, a cocking pistol sound in his back, it was him, it was the overlord:
-Say a word, say a single word and you're going back to the sewer jails.
-My lord Armagan king of butter please jesus christ you hired me for it, let me speak to them.
Armagan had arranged to get himself called "My lord king of butter" to his own satisfaction while he patrolled the office in his broom-horse.
-No, I don't think I will, in fact the devs are quite hungry... it's time you face the "Lust"
-NOO PLEASE
He knew what it was coming, he was sent to the bottom of the office, this time even lower than the sewers... The corpse of Lust, the horrible scent, the true horror. He could already picture it, a post in the forums giving his goodbyes, "I'm retiring, it has been a great experience but I want to spend more time with my family". The perfect lie, he already could feel the devs feeding on his neck. They preyed on players by frustrating them, enjoyed watching them use the class system, not being able to use a spear, a shield and a secondary weapon at the same time, that made them explode in pleasure, but when the players' frustration wasn't enough... Time to hire a new Community Manager

This is the end of chapter one but for those that want to read a little more here's a teaser for you

Dejan arrived a beautiful morning, a good new job in a rising company, life could only get better after this, on his way to the town by the bus he had noted an increase of South Americans in the area, something he thought quite strange given how far it was, they were holding some signs, maybe getting ready for a manifestation?

 

[Ikea Knight]

Bro what are you talking about a Community Manager literally banished from the forums and never returned, has anyone seen Callum? I have made a fan fic to picture what I think it's going on, of course I'm taking some creative liberties:

The furious mob had gathered around the place, very late at night. The torches lighted up the scene and the forks' metal shone brighter than any sunshine, Callum gulped at this horrible sight, this time he was truly trapped. His heart was beating so fast, and now he could start hearing each one complaint from the voices in the mob. "Where is the castle building feature" said one on the right, who's mouth pestilence could be smelt from the distance. "Where the hell is my immersion? I am not immersed!" said a larper on the left, with his dark age custom he himself had sew. "WHY I CANT MARRY RAAEEGHEA, WHERE ARE MY MOMMY GF MILKERS!?" shouted one so loud, that everyone joined in chant "Mommy milkers, mommy milkers". This could only get worse. Callum was standing at the gate all alone, trembling, but he was hired for the job, and he was ready to talk... "Oh no" he thought, a cocking pistol sound in his back, it was him, it was the overlord:
-Say a word, say a single word and you're going back to the sewer jails.
-My lord Armagan king of butter please jesus christ you hired me for it, let me speak to them.
Armagan had arranged to get himself called "My lord king of butter" to his own satisfaction while he patrolled the office in his broom-horse.
-No, I don't think I will, in fact the devs are quite hungry... it's time you face the "Lust"
-NOO PLEASE
He knew what it was coming, he was sent to the bottom of the office, this time even lower than the sewers... The corpse of Lust, the horrible scent, the true horror. He could already picture it, a post in the forums giving his goodbyes, "I'm retiring, it has been a great experience but I want to spend more time with my family". The perfect lie, he already could feel the devs feeding on his neck. They preyed on players by frustrating them, enjoyed watching them use the class system, not being able to use a spear, a shield and a secondary weapon at the same time, that made them explode in pleasure, but when the players' frustration wasn't enough... Time to hire a new Community Manager

This is the end of chapter one but for those that want to read a little more here's a teaser for you

Dejan arrived a beautiful morning, a good new job in a rising company, life could only get better after this, on his way to the town by the bus he had noted an increase of South Americans in the area, something he thought quite strange given how far it was, they were holding some signs, maybe getting ready for a manifestation?

Does your story have a title?
Can't wait for the next part. Oh and the prequels.
But I think communication has improved Dejan, Avrc and Mexxico (and other devs, top!) are really interacting with us.


However while the communication is better, I do think that often what the players and what the (lead) developers want are different things.
At this point my frustration doesn't come from bad communication but rather from "poor" decisiomaking.

Most of the time the community managers can only say what the decision is and not why the decision is made. That's frustrating.

 

[MostBlunted]

That's very much false. We care about the game and we care about our community. Your suggestions and feedback are gathered from various platforms, including this forum. These suggestions and feedback are then brought up in dedicated meetings where they’re evaluated and processed by the relevant developers.

Any implications that Armagan himself doesn't care or isn't involved in the development are likewise very much false.

I have been collecting various community game-related questions and concerns and will see if I can get an answer for them. Speaking for myself only, please feel free to tag me on our forums whenever you would like to clear up something, provide feedback on a certain feature or make a suggestion for a new one.

At this stage, I would also like to encourage you to use the relevant subforums:

• Suggestions - For all suggestions on new features or improving the current ones.
• The Keep - Singleplayer - For providing SP feedback.
• The Fields of Valour - Multiplayer - For providing MP feedback.

The issue is, we rarely (!) get any information about the suggetions we made.

And be honest, that´s just like PR talk, straight from the marketing playbook:

That's very much false. We care about the game and we care about our community. Your suggestions and feedback are gathered from various platforms, including this forum. These suggestions and feedback are then brought up in dedicated meetings where they’re evaluated and processed by the relevant developers.

 

[black_bulldog]

That's very much false. We care about the game and we care about our community. Your suggestions and feedback are gathered from various platforms, including this forum. These suggestions and feedback are then brought up in dedicated meetings where they’re evaluated and processed by the relevant developers.

Any implications that Armagan himself doesn't care or isn't involved in the development are likewise very much false.

I have been collecting various community game-related questions and concerns and will see if I can get an answer for them. Speaking for myself only, please feel free to tag me on our forums whenever you would like to clear up something, provide feedback on a certain feature or make a suggestion for a new one.

At this stage, I would also like to encourage you to use the relevant subforums:

• Suggestions - For all suggestions on new features or improving the current ones.
• The Keep - Singleplayer - For providing SP feedback.
• The Fields of Valour - Multiplayer - For providing MP feedback.

How would we know that you, Armagan, or anyone else really cares? We get such limited feedback that we have no idea what TW devs think, what you find useful, what isn't helpful, etc. I don't think Armagan should have to say anything and I doubt he'll respond to this or any thread but it would be great. This thread is 7 pages long and it took that long before a community manager to even said a word. That is more telling than what you actually reply. I don't think TW needs to reply to everything but man we've been begging for more interaction from TW devs for years why is so difficult for your company? TW is the one who asked for feedback and that implies communication but communication is a two way street, just my 2 cents.

 

[vonbalt]

"Where the hell is my immersion? I am not immersed!" said a larper on the left, with his dark age custom he himself had sew.

I felt personally attacked for how truthful this is, if you want to know my newest haubergeon is coming along great, just a few thousand more riveted links to go

Nice piece of storytelling lol, honestly TW should hire you to overhaul the mainquest, rip cap Lust

 

[Terco_Viejo]

@Revverie Send me your dealer's number by PM now. .
Please open a thread in Minstrel's Corner - AARs, Screenshots & Videos and let's have a laugh with this. I can't wait to read chapter two

There is no other way to take it. Better to laugh at the situation...

 

[Craven4]

he was ready to talk... "Oh no" he thought, a cocking pistol sound in his back, it was him, it was the overlord:
-Say a word, say a single word and you're going back to the sewer jails.
-My lord Armagan king of butter please jesus christ you hired me for it, let me speak to them.
Armagan had arranged to get himself called "My lord king of butter" to his own satisfaction while he patrolled the office in his broom-horse.
-No, I don't think I will, in fact the devs are quite hungry... it's time you face the "Lust"
-NOO PLEASE

No amount of time played in bannerlord or spent complaining on the forums could give me the joy and fulfillment your fan fiction just did.
Thank you good sir

On another note. @Dejan that response was disappointing. Your establishment has a lot of proving to do before you deserve the respect of your own community after the way you went about beta and ea.