odd strat but true?

[w00d]

As King i spend all my time doing 3 things

1. shopping for ale, oil and wine

2. feasting ( tho i had to apply the hall less lords behavior fix)

3. not assigning fiefs.

i figured out that the best way to retain my current lords is not to accept anymore and not to give anyone anymore fiefs after their initial fief.

Why? because every time u assign a fief to someone, everyone else or least most of them get pissed off, which is why all that ale, oil and wine goes into bribing. So the best way to keep the peace is to NOT assign anyone anything, ( not even to yourself which makes sense as the tax inefficiency makes their income negligible ) other than their initial fief and preferable to keep them close to your main city. ( so its easy for them to attend the feasts etc  )

tbh i have not seen any reason to actually put more than the a few troops in the castles or assign one to a lord. When the computer ai sieges them they usually turn up with most of their army and so even if u had 400 top tier troops there, the AI will win.  (Tested a few times,  150 Hurscarls backed by 150 Rhodok Sharpshooters and 100 swadian knights , 1000 man ai won with less than 200 losses. ).  Changing the composition did not really matter for some reason.

my strat is actually to encourage them to come siege a city. then u rush to their castles, take 1-2 of them and rush back to defend the city. ( u can defend a 1600 siege with 200 men easily ) , repeat until they lost everything.

the few benefits of assigning to a lord are not really that immediate. They might patrol around and defeat some bandits but its too much for them normally ( and they do not clear a village of bandits out on their own ) and since u don't assign the fief to anyone, the income is not missed anyway.

Anyone else come to the same conclusion or am i missing something here?

edit: typos

 

[freyj]

I have a question:

If you conquer a town or castle, and do not assign it to anyone, isn't it the case that you will have to pay for the garrison you put in (because it is all your troop) AND you don't get any income from it (because you do not own it)?

Unless there is something I am missing, it seems that assigning fief to yourself is in every aspect better than not assigning it to anyone.

 

[w00d]

no u do not pay for the troops garrisoned there, essentially u can stick all your expensive troops there as guards but never have to pay for it as long as you do not assign it to YOURSELF. Tho of course u cannot retrieve them.

But that is not the point as u spend more trying to fix the rep losses from assigning fiefs and if u give it to yourself everyone else hates you as well , plus u get some free troops every time u decline to assign the fief immediately ie u get something like 40 basic recruits and tier 1 stuff . U can then just chuck in 100 odd defenders and take the 40 out. Your rep goes up ( from sharing plunder ) , your Lords do not lose anything and they do not need the income, ie they magically regen their troops from a single fief and u get a bunch of fiefs who have free defenders .

 

[freyj]

no u do not pay for the troops garrisoned there, essentially u can stick all your expensive troops there as guards but never have to pay for it as long as you do not assign it to YOURSELF. Tho of course u cannot retrieve them.

Well, then I have to ask: what version are you playing?
It's a known fact that in Warband 1.131 you do have to pay for the garrison and you can retrieve them, regardless if you assign the city/castle to yourself or not.

 

[Caba`drin]

no u do not pay for the troops garrisoned there

I believe this was changed from version 1.127 to 1.128; currently, as freyj says, you pay the garrison's upkeep on all non-assigned fiefs.

if u give it to yourself everyone else hates you as well

I'm fairly certain that there's not a rep hit among all vassals if you give yourself a fief.

your Lords do not lose anything and they do not need the income, ie they magically regen their troops from a single fief and u get a bunch of fiefs who have free defenders .

Lords do get income from fiefs. The more they have, the more income. This affects the number and type of troops they get on the "regeneration" cycles. And castles particularly increase their income vis-a-vis troop recruitment. If you have a lord with more fiefs, they will regenerate their troops more quickly.

 

[w00d]

100% sure i am playing the 1.131 version as i am using steam which seems to update everything, same with the Diplomacy version 3.11?

i do get a rep hit when i assign a fief to myself. I cannot retrieve them, once u leave the manage garrison screen it does not appear and u can only change the garrison after u assigned the fief back to yourself.