<> OCEANIC CAMPAIGN I: OFFICIAL THREAD <>

[Moss]

RAWR INVASION

Bout bloody time!

Come men of Rawr. Let's see if stout stones and sharp blades can turn the tide of this war.

 

[RAOUL]

Abuse an admin and see how long you last and if they care enough to flag you after your second warning.

But then I'm a spammy kinda guy.

the problem is the randomness

faster is probably the number one culprit for random swings flying through blocks, unpredictable attack speeds and everything else that comes with that

listen to me, i know what i'm talking about

 

[Night Ninja]

Medium is tedious IMO. Too much turn-taking, fewer opportunities for surprise attacks; it's like playing chess. Whoever can feint and block the best and the longest wins. But then I'm a spammy kinda guy.

Yeah, that's the point, it allows more technical ability and less 'RAWRGH LMBLMBLMBLMB' with the longest and hardest hitting weapon you find.

 

[Moss]

To be perfectly honest the only two weapons I see that being a problem with on the GoN servers is the spears and swadian two handers and only rarely. All the rest are perfectly blockable.

If you take momentum out of the fight it'd mostly just come down to who had the longer reach/kick spam.

 

[RAOUL]

there is NO reason to not play medium

To be perfectly honest the only two weapons I see that being a problem with on the GoN servers is the spears and swadian two handers and only rarely. All the rest are perfectly blockable.

If you take momentum out of the fight it'd mostly just come down to who had the longer reach/kick spam.

this could be avoided with a few clicks in the admin panel, in doing so, alslo fixing considerable amount of other unnecessary quirks

we'll see what acc says, but i'm certain the answer is not going to be favourable

 

[HTAPAWASO]

Waso, maybe that's because you've never played on medium or fastest.

Medium is the best speed by far. Only Marshall likes faster and fastest. 

I've played on the different settings plenty.

GON servers used to be on fastest, and KEEN duels was on medium, and now GON servers are on faster, so I've played all 3 a lot.

I can notice a difference between medium and fastest, but it's so negligible I've never really cared.
I don't understand what the problem with faster is, it seems fine to me, but if people want it changed that's fine too. I liked fastest when we used to use it.

 

[RAOUL]

Waso, maybe that's because you've never played on medium or fastest.

Medium is the best speed by far. Only Marshall likes faster and fastest. 

I've played on the different settings plenty.

GON servers used to be on fastest, and KEEN duels was on medium, and now GON servers are on faster, so I've played all 3 a lot.

I can notice a difference between medium and fastest, but it's so negligible I've never really cared.
I don't understand what the problem with faster is, it seems fine to me, but if people want it changed that's fine too. I liked fastest when we used to use it.

to be honest fastest isn't too bad, i quite liked it when we had it on there for a while, it's a different style of play, but at the very least (from my experiences and testing), the block speeds correspond with the attack speeds a lot better than they do on faster.

dueling on fastest on the other hand, is simply put, a waste of time

 

[Laszlo]

I quite enjoy dueling on fastest.

 

[Gumpy]

Yeah, that's the point, it allows more technical ability and less 'RAWRGH LMBLMBLMBLMB' with the longest and hardest hitting weapon you find.

I spose, I always found it annoying that it was so difficult to hit people, it was winning by attrition instead of tactics because it was so easy to block... but I'm not really that familiar with the different speeds. Though I agree on faster things seem a little off, it's easy to get spammed down and wonder why your block didn't register - Moss has done this to me a number of times, because he never feints, and just keeps attacking and attacking and taking me by surprise 

 

[Gaiseec]

Fastest is the greatest combat speed of all time. The rest get worse as you go down. As for testing on speeds, i havent done it so do not know. But i think a choice between fastest or medium would be good, and we should choose one and set it as the standard for the campaign.

 

[Moss]

Though I agree on faster things seem a little off, it's easy to get spammed down and wonder why your block didn't register - Moss has done this to me a number of times, because he never feints, and just keeps attacking and attacking and taking me by surprise 

Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition spam!

I'm pretty sure the block settings have been changed in the last two versions, I tend to find myself getting hit by attacks I'm sure I should have blocked with a shield and as I'm sure we've all noticed attacks are no longer stunned properly by hitting a shield, meaning you can spam attacks against them. This is most obvious for spears, but the same applies to short swords, etc.

 

[RAOUL]

happy to do some testing with you guys on the keen server at some point

i think medium's probably the best, personally, but we can certainly test fastest as well

 

[CMarshall]

I quite enjoy dueling on fastest.

Totally agree =]
Fast and furious block-a-thon fights are much more satisfying on fastest, but it does make axe-spam and the like all that much more viable. There really is not much difference between fastest and faster, or faster and medium, but I'll tend to lead towards the faster side.
As for the balance between attack and block speeds, I find it much easier to block on faster speeds. =]
Faster is probably the best compromise for general play.

 

[RAOUL]

rather than making a blind compromise, why not actually test it?

as far as i'm/people i have tested it with are concerned, faster is bugged to ****e.

i don't even know why this game has different combat settings, it's really illogical.

 

[Laszlo]

rather than making a blind compromise, why not actually test it?

as far as i'm/people i have tested it with are concerned, faster is bugged to ****e.

i don't even know why this game has different combat settings, it's really illogical.

Very well, how do you propose we test it?

 

[RAOUL]

last time (kunt, minsc, thorn and myself) we simply tested different weapons with different shields, different swing directions with different manual blocks and essentially just noted the inconsistencies between the different combat speed settings

you could say that it's just keen complaining, but we all play fairly differently, and i can quite safely say that i think i am a somewhat credible source when it comes to melee mechanics

unfortunately though, i can't even see the keen server, even after updating

 

[Doomicus]

I am up for testing some different speeds. It's bad going to and from different speeds so it would be best to come to one agreed upon norm.

Dojo offensive E4 - Dojo sail to SPLH's Port to launch an assault. We request no Nords on this map and will match numbers you can muster. Open to a Sunday battle, 7pm. Generally Sundays are our best day but open to mid-week games.




Dojo offensive B3 - We march towards RAWR's castle once again, with preparations this time for an attack on their Village stronghold (We will just play Village this time, without the confusion of Castle4). We will match as many men as you bring forth. Please suggest a few suitable times for you to play and I am sure we could manage to get a team for the battle.​

 

[Matt59Red]

Sorry Doomicus, but we must refuse the attack
We have a battle with KEEN this sunday and one with SPLH next sunday im open to battles after that though.
Also, i think Faster is best for the combat speed as its a balance between Uber quick and normal and we have also played on this for some time now and I see no problem there

 

[Moss]

We've still got the Tyr invasion to organise (if they ever get back to us on that) and the Rawr match. A lot of our members have things on this weekend, but we might be able to swing a Sunday match. If not maybe next Friday if it's okay with you guys?


Also, because Calis is seemingly AWOL here's the first part of the inevitable "Rawr is doing stuff" story.

The scents of smoke and searing meat wafted up from the scullery as Lord Moss made his way into the feast hall. The mornings early light had barely breached the hills and the serving staff were already busy with the days preparation, gathering fresh linen, sweeping the halls and turning the castle to a bee hive of activity, a daily ritual that had taken place within it's walls every day that he could remember.

He'd been born within these walls, more years ago than he could care to remember. Learned to read in the study, martial skills in the courtyard and hunting in the broad hills and fields that surrounded it. It was within these walls that the succession war to put the rightful heir on the thrown had been planned. Behind him over the hearth still stood the banner he and his compatriots had marched under not so many years ago, at the head of a war host five thousand strong to put the child king Hershen upon the Crimson Throne.

Those were better days. The land may have been torn by civil war, but it was war of a more pleasant kind, fought on open fields with polished armours and dye soaked heraldry, not amongst muddy hovels and burning fields, trying desperately to buy time for subjects and civilians to flee. Time was that the Heartlands were a safer place, standing armies held banditry and barbarians at bay, treaties with the neighboring kingdoms ensured trade and prosperity. But the great war changed that. Still weak from the succession war the standing forces of kingdom had been less than half of what they currently were and in disarray, allowing the savage chaos of the Keenites to the west to rip and tear at the borders and the nomadic tribes under Matt the bloody-handed to gain a foothold on the boarder.

Seating himself at one of the heads of the great table Moss looked over the maps and ledgers arrayed in front of him, scrawled notes of troop movements, supply stockpiles and regimental numbers. Bolstered by fresh recruits and the Paparan Mercenaries from the southern coast the armies of the realm had returned to a number almost as strong as they once were. The barbarian advance had been slowed, if not halted entirely and a recent invasion of auxiliary forces from the brotherhood of Southern Knights to the east had been turned back with hardly any casualties to the defending garrison.

The times and war had changed much. Of the barons who had lead the succession war only he and Sushi of the east still lived, the arms and amours of the others standing silently in their ceremonial positions around the great hall, perched under their draping heraldry.

Sudden shouts from the courtyard stole Moss from his revery causing him to pull himself up from his seat with an aged and weary grunt, shuffling over to the slitted windows in his heavy winter furs. Beneath him a mud covered courser shied and whinnied away from the stable keepers, flanks heaving from exhaustion and streaming with the vibrant red of spilt blood. Cries for help and extra arms echoed through the morning air as they sought to cut the rider from his saddle straps and help him to the ground.

As Moss made his way down to the courtyard he passed by the alcove that would one day hold his own arms. Perhaps, he felt, not so long from now.

 

[RAOUL]

Sorry Doomicus, but we must refuse the attack
We have a battle with KEEN this sunday and one with SPLH next sunday im open to battles after that though.
Also, i think Faster is best for the combat speed as its a balance between Uber quick and normal and we have also played on this for some time now and I see no problem there

the fact is; it's not a "balanced" in between, it's totally off, it's broken, it seems good on paper, but it's shocking for game consistency