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ak-74
Banned
Obviously most people that post here are woman as noone seems to let go of anything.
Acc should just grasp his nuts and get over it. Wipe the ban slate clean then everyone will focus on the game instead of him.
If the slate is clean and future bans are legit then no one can complain really.
I think the focus should be put on finishing this campaign so that the next one can be started !
Regarding the next one:
Instead of running the next one like a dictatorship allocate a member from each clan who can express an OPINION (regarding the campaign) amongst other nominated clan people, that way things like combat speed/round timers etc can be voted on and sorted out without any hassle.
Tbh I agree with toad in that "warband should be about warband; forget the fickle ****s (eg. me) on the forums"
This forum is obviously used for campaign purposes or for general forum laughs , surely people could admit forums are used for non serious things as much as "serious" things. So the moral is , either laugh/ignore here but enjoy warband regardless.
Acc should just grasp his nuts and get over it. Wipe the ban slate clean then everyone will focus on the game instead of him.
If the slate is clean and future bans are legit then no one can complain really.
I think the focus should be put on finishing this campaign so that the next one can be started !
Regarding the next one:
Instead of running the next one like a dictatorship allocate a member from each clan who can express an OPINION (regarding the campaign) amongst other nominated clan people, that way things like combat speed/round timers etc can be voted on and sorted out without any hassle.
Tbh I agree with toad in that "warband should be about warband; forget the fickle ****s (eg. me) on the forums"
This forum is obviously used for campaign purposes or for general forum laughs , surely people could admit forums are used for non serious things as much as "serious" things. So the moral is , either laugh/ignore here but enjoy warband regardless.
ProPaul
Banned
saregona 说:all that matters is that CC knows why Toad's banned, its not like he's heavy on the banhammer or anything so whatever was done must have been substantial. pretty sure toad knows exactly why he's banned, he's just kicking up a tantrum now that he's been bit in the backside by the consequences of whatever he did. honestly, his suggestion that CC rifled through old logs to LOOK for a reason to ban him? oh please, what rubbish
I am hoping that was all just elaborate sarcasm, but I highly doubt it.
Toad was banned when he was not even playing. ACC1 said openly that looking through the logs to find a reason to ban him was EXACTLY what he did.
I was banned for dropping the F bomb in a non-malicous manner just once, while I have seen dozens of people swear at others with ACC present without so much as a warning. Luckily my brother has an account that he rarely uses and I was able to play in wars and pub under alias until my account was unbanned.
After KEEN ransacked the 22nd server some people were giving Dojo crap for not realising how 'bad' KEEN were, however it is you guys that don't realise how bad ACC1 is. There is something wrong with this guy. I have heard on mumble how he treats people that are supposedly his friends. He has no idea how to interact with human beings.
We are talking about a guy who has lived his entire life behind a screen trying to deal with human interaction. It doesn't work in theory, and it doesn't work in practice.
ak-74
Banned
HTAPAWASO 说:
I didnt realise i was complaining , mearly making unbiased statements
Tbh It is run Like a dictatorship as you and other people seem to take such personal offense to any suggestions relating to making the campaign/game better for everyone. My point in creating a governing body is to ensure things get delt with fairly other than pissing around like girls. Obviously I realise things like combat speed is settled in offensive/def posts but it was an example basically.
Ah well , cannot reason with morons.
cbf.
ProPaul 说:
When you say "I have heard on mumble", do you mean firsthand, or you've heard from somebody else?
If you mean firsthand, well... I've never seen you on the GON mumble, and I'm on there more than most people.
If you mean second-hand... how can you say that we, the people who talk with ACC for hours every week, do not know what he's like, when you're basing everything off rumours?
Either way, I haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about. Maybe you should provide an example of "how he treats people that are supposedly his friends" which is so horrible?
You know, I've heard some pretty hilarious tin-foil-hat style rumours about Dojo members... that doesn't mean I'm gonna believe them.
ak-74 说:
Your argument amounts to 'anyone that disagrees with my point of view wants to make the community suffer and should be ignored'.
Sounds like you're the one who wants a dictatorship here, no?
What exactly would this "governing body" of yours solve?
If combat speed was "an example basically" and not an actual issue... what would be the issues?
If you're gonna propose a change you should probably put forth some form of reason besides 'people who oppose this oppose making the campaign better for everyone!'
RAOUL
Banned
in all likelihood, acc MAY actually be a reasonable person towards you guys
that's not the case for us -- not saying we deserve any different, but after all, this **** storm started after i was banned without reason, that is all
the point of this? it's apparent that he doesn't like a few of us, and we suffer the consequences due to him being an admin
that's not the case for us -- not saying we deserve any different, but after all, this **** storm started after i was banned without reason, that is all
the point of this? it's apparent that he doesn't like a few of us, and we suffer the consequences due to him being an admin
Well personally I think many of the GON rules are ridiculous, but that's just what you get with a big company.
However, if I was a mindless admin-bot which enforced rules without question, I would've banned you countless times by now for things I've seen you do in-game.
Not saying you're the only one by any stretch of the imagination, but that's the reality.
You say you were not warned... yet you received a temp. ban before.
Did that not serve as a pretty good warning?
The point to all this is of course that you shouldn't be having a go at ACC when he's just following the rules - even if they are stupid rules.
(at this point, you say "but he never bans non-KEEN/Dojo people when they break the rules!")
Well that may be so, I don't know.
If it is true, and you know it, why don't you take some initiative and provide evidence of people breaking the rules?
If ACC still doesn't act, and you have definitive proof of double-standards, then you have some grounds to complain, both here and to GON.
Until then, this is just a pointless argument which will go nowhere.
However, if I was a mindless admin-bot which enforced rules without question, I would've banned you countless times by now for things I've seen you do in-game.
Not saying you're the only one by any stretch of the imagination, but that's the reality.
You say you were not warned... yet you received a temp. ban before.
Did that not serve as a pretty good warning?
The point to all this is of course that you shouldn't be having a go at ACC when he's just following the rules - even if they are stupid rules.
(at this point, you say "but he never bans non-KEEN/Dojo people when they break the rules!")
Well that may be so, I don't know.
If it is true, and you know it, why don't you take some initiative and provide evidence of people breaking the rules?
If ACC still doesn't act, and you have definitive proof of double-standards, then you have some grounds to complain, both here and to GON.
Until then, this is just a pointless argument which will go nowhere.
RAOUL
Banned
actually, i have never been warned under my current cd-key, nor have i ever been banned, in his words, no past offenses transfer between cd-keys, and i've only used this cd-key for a few months
this is precisely the issue
i'm not particularly interested in singling people out, but there is FAR more lenience for the folks that frequent mumble -- i have witnessed it first hand
this is precisely the issue
i'm not particularly interested in singling people out, but there is FAR more lenience for the folks that frequent mumble -- i have witnessed it first hand
Ah, didn't pick up that you were using a new key.
The GON rules aren't game-specific for obvious reasons, there has to be some decision-making on the side of the admin.
Having a duel to finish the round is one thing, but when everybody except a few people are dead and the remaining ones just stand around not fighting for 3 minutes? intensely annoying.
Deliberately team-killing or getting in the way of friendly archers to stop them shooting a particular enemy? Totally ridiculous, and it happens a lot.
I agree, it's a fairly nasty thing to do, but it's no worse than slagging off ACC with no proof to what you're saying.
Forethought 说:
The GON rules aren't game-specific for obvious reasons, there has to be some decision-making on the side of the admin.
Having a duel to finish the round is one thing, but when everybody except a few people are dead and the remaining ones just stand around not fighting for 3 minutes? intensely annoying.
Deliberately team-killing or getting in the way of friendly archers to stop them shooting a particular enemy? Totally ridiculous, and it happens a lot.
I agree, it's a fairly nasty thing to do, but it's no worse than slagging off ACC with no proof to what you're saying.
RAOUL 说:
The last time I played, KEEN member was the last alive on one team (alias, but too good to be anyone else), another KEEN and a few noobs on the other team.
Noob shoots and kills enemy KEEN member, round timer starts...
Friendly KEEN shoots noob in the face.
The hilarious thing is that moments later Azraine (alias, but too annoying to be anyone else) starts mouthing off about how KoS is scaring away new players.
I'm a pretty patient guy and don't get angry easily. If this kind of stuff happens to me, I'm happy to leave and do something else for a while or just suck it up.
But other players, especially new ones who don't know what is going on, are not going to come back to the game if this keeps happening to them.
If I was an admin I would have banned that bastard on the spot, but ACC did not (yes, he was on at the time).
If you ask me he's pretty damn lenient.
Ok guys, I have a confession.
I was pretty saddened by the lack of activity in the campaign thread so I asked ACC1 to pick a random KEEN player and perma ban him just to stir up some drama.
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Also; ak-74, name the time and place and I will happily arrive and mercilessly crush you in a debate on the merits of this campaign and any false notions of authoritarianism, so long as it is not in this thread.
I was pretty saddened by the lack of activity in the campaign thread so I asked ACC1 to pick a random KEEN player and perma ban him just to stir up some drama.
...
Just kidding! Punch on! Muhahahahaa loving it (sorry Toad)
Also; ak-74, name the time and place and I will happily arrive and mercilessly crush you in a debate on the merits of this campaign and any false notions of authoritarianism, so long as it is not in this thread.
Papa Damiano
Recruit
I think members should be careful when accusing Keen members of actions done by aliases. Trouble is that Keen have dug themselves a bit of a hole with the aliases. Really, the aliases can be anyone having a good day (skill wise). Play well, saying a few words characteristic of Keen (e.g., Gleetz, hailz, etc), and before you know it the server thinks they're Keen. Someone could take advantage of this ease of imitation so I would advise against automatically assuming an alias is Keen.
