<> OCEANIC CAMPAIGN I: OFFICIAL THREAD <>

[Night Ninja]

Hit a nerve, did he?

Mar does make a good point. It doesn't take very much for someone to take offense and start escalating, especially in the context of this campaign.

 

[Aplasticbag]

176 PAGES OF PURE TEXT

 

[RAOUL]

1. again, you only think that because youre losing instead of killing, and cant accept that it is a legitimate tactic, be it used frequently or as a last-resort
2. this isnt a real battle for one, also retreating is when you give up entirely
3. it "drags the game out" to however long the round lasts, which is no problem, have fun trying to kill the person, use that for next round to make sure it doesnt happen again
4. if they were the "legitimate winner" then they would have killed them all already
5. it only increases the resentment between little kiddies who all shout out on their voips about how mad they are and then leave the match, when really all they were mad about was not being able to kill the person, they werent mad at the tactic, though they think they are, and its fun if you have patience, if you just like matches where infantry charge eachother then you wont like proper matches, where the dirtiest of tactics are utilised, yes, even forcing a draw

edit: mar makes a good point, swearing would be considered "against the spirit of the campaign" as laszlo often says -not about swearing, but what i said in quotation marks. swearing at others i mean, not swearing all together, there is nothing wrong with a bit of french here and there, as long as it is not directed at other clans or god forbid your own clan.

this is almost all nonsense

the way the game/maps are designed (particularly village), it is not simply a matter of "not making it happen again", it's next to impossible to find somebody with 20 seconds on the clock on a map as large as village (when their sole intention is to hide from you)

was going to post some other ****e, but will refrain and return to greetzbombing

 

[thakey]

Mar, you need to have a warm glass of HARDEN THE **** UP.

 

[Matt59Red]

Mar, you need to have a warm glass of HARDEN THE **** UP.

Mate, we dont have to swear every few seconds do we? do you have some kind of keyboard terets syndrome?
He's just trying to ease the tension between the clans and giving suggestions on how to accomplish it.

Not sure about the rematch, a lot of people are busy and some people dont think we should even do it because something WILL happen apparently, that will cause more grief for both clans. This is not my view.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

And I got a legit tactic for you, Strongbow - clans agreeing to rules that prevent draws because they annoy the hell out of all concerned!

 

[Papa Damiano]

1. again, you only think that because youre losing instead of killing, and cant accept that it is a legitimate tactic, be it used frequently or as a last-resort
2. this isnt a real battle for one, also retreating is when you give up entirely
3. it "drags the game out" to however long the round lasts, which is no problem, have fun trying to kill the person, use that for next round to make sure it doesnt happen again
4. if they were the "legitimate winner" then they would have killed them all already
5. it only increases the resentment between little kiddies who all shout out on their voips about how mad they are and then leave the match, when really all they were mad about was not being able to kill the person, they werent mad at the tactic, though they think they are, and its fun if you have patience, if you just like matches where infantry charge eachother then you wont like proper matches, where the dirtiest of tactics are utilised, yes, even forcing a draw

Lol? Do you really believe this text? People are not just angry for "not being able to kill the person", people are angry for waiting and waiting, losing illegitimately, and because they feel they are not having as much fun as they should.  Raoul makes a strong point that on maps such as village if someone is trying to hard to hide from you then its highly improbable to find them in the allocated time. Think about it, can you really expect a battle to revolve around "trying to make sure you scout and watch every single hiding spot, INCLUDING outside the map" while you are trying to defend the village? Yeah that's fun... totally defeats the purpose of the game.

 

[Gerhart Von Drivesabus]

how much more can this campaign take? I mean, is it really worth it anymore?

 

[Doomicus]

Mar, you need to have a warm glass of HARDEN THE **** UP.

Mate, we dont have to swear every few seconds do we? do you have some kind of keyboard terets syndrome?
He's just trying to ease the tension between the clans and giving suggestions on how to accomplish it.

Not sure about the rematch, a lot of people are busy and some people dont think we should even do it because something WILL happen apparently, that will cause more grief for both clans. This is not my view.

Dont even know why people are even arguing. We are extending the round timers, problem solved. We did it for the KoS match worked fine. If 10 minutes isnt good, then 8 minutes im sure is fine.

There is no reason to not have the match matt, we already have 14 confirmed for next sunday same time. So we are definatly ok to fight that night. Can we get a solid answer now please about where you stand with this rematch, so far you have 100% gone back on everything you said when you talked with Azraine in mumble with fight time and round timers, so anytime you want to start being consistent thatll be a thumbs up.

 

[thakey]

Hohohohoh good one Matt!!

 

[Matt59Red]

Mar, you need to have a warm glass of HARDEN THE **** UP.

Mate, we dont have to swear every few seconds do we? do you have some kind of keyboard terets syndrome?
He's just trying to ease the tension between the clans and giving suggestions on how to accomplish it.

Not sure about the rematch, a lot of people are busy and some people dont think we should even do it because something WILL happen apparently, that will cause more grief for both clans. This is not my view.

Dont even know why people are even arguing. We are extending the round timers, problem solved. We did it for the KoS match worked fine. If 10 minutes isnt good, then 8 minutes im sure is fine.

There is no reason to not have the match matt, we already have 14 confirmed for next sunday same time. So we are definatly ok to fight that night. Can we get a solid answer now please about where you stand with this rematch, so far you have 100% gone back on everything you said when you talked with Azraine in mumble with fight time and round timers, so anytime you want to start being consistent thatll be a thumbs up.

Yeah theres a lot of confusion going on at the moment but quite a few veteran rawr members dont like the idea of the rematch. Ill say this, dont take offense please. They feel like we were ripped off a win. I do agree 5 mins too short for a siege type battle though. BUT the battle might go ahead, just dont be dissapointed when/if it doesnt happen.

 

[Matt59Red]

Hohohohoh good one Matt!!

Glad you think so, but you didnt answer the question!! do you have.. keyboard terets?

 

[thakey]

Stop making a fool of yourself sir yettoreachpuberty

 

[ProPaul]

Not sure about the rematch...some people dont think we should even do it because something WILL happen apparently, that will cause more grief for both clans. This is not my view.

Let me just clarify straight up that I don't have a problem with any RAWR member other then Hyperr.

My first interaction with Hyperr was being heavily abused for absolutely no reason, so if the baby doesn't want to fight then he doesn't have to.

We just want to war on fair grounds without having 5 rounds draw in a row. We 'won' those last 4 or 5 rounds so really the match was very even.
The match was good up until the 3rd or 4th draw. I say grab your members willing to fight, we will match your numbers and proceed to have a good battle win or lose (hopefully minus the hateful and hideous ginger.)

 

[Doomicus]

Well to be honest, you rage quitted, so you robbed yourself of a win if thats how you see it.

We had just drawn about 4-5 times in a row, most of which we had a significant numbers advantage and the only thing that stopped us was the time limit, if the rounds were 8 minutes than we would have surely won most  of them, so we felt we were being stooged by the timers.

I remember when we proposed a castle siege when we last attacked village as it was your castle (because of some barbarian rules or something), you wanted shorter defender respawn timers, we agreed to make it fair. However we couldnt get the server to work with it so we played battle on village and we got destroyed. That shows the willingness of both parties to agree on time issues with games and also a willingness to change things last minute for the sake of a good fair battle.

I was dissapointed with the RAWR reaction, but i dont see why we cant just move past it and go to a rematch. The fact is you were 4-1 on the scoreboards but you hadnt won any of the last 5 rounds so you werent winning at that point, the only thing saving you was the round timer.

 

[Gerhart Von Drivesabus]

sigh this is bs. Why are we even still talking about that?

I personally would rather fight this week against KoS. our last fight with them was actually fun, and I look forward to fighting them again. Did Knightmeister mention something a couple pages back about an invasion this week? or was that with SPLH?

 

[HTAPAWASO]

Calis, I think making a rule against running away is an absolutely terrible idea, frankly.
Too many ambiguous situations which will turn into some massive drama.

Not to mention, as Doom says, with an appropriate time limit for the number of people playing, draws are very rarely a problem.
With less than 10 people per side, 5 minutes works fine.
10-15, 8 minutes works very well (KoS and Dojo have had 4 battles at 15 players and 7-8 minutes, without a single draw IIRC).


And about not wanting to play with Dojo again, you should reconsider that.
KoS and Dojo had far more than their fair share of **** matches together, but after establishing some additional rules and etiquette, we've now had a lot of very successful and challenging games.

 

[RAOUL]

such pointless, puerile ****e

i'm not really surprised laszlo hasn't chimed in

drop the expectations a notch and you may enjoy these games (i personally don't enjoy them, but maybe 18 vs 18 is something you fancy), after all, the campaign exists to facilitate FUN matches between clans -- as much as it's nice to win in huge matches like that, it's evident that it is just a matter of map/faction imbalances doing the work for you

the reason why the settings were changed was due to the fact that the rounds were clearly not going anywhere, we were wasting our time, just to see another draw with over 15 people still alive

it's clear that you obviously all want win so bad, that you aren't seeing the greater picture

you made a stupid decision, deal with it, can't be ****ed reading another justification for this pointless ****e

anyway, the 7 vs 7 ladder is starting next week (had to plug it, otherwise it was a wasted post), and if any of this dramatic rubbish makes an appearance in that thread, you will enter the TOADZONE

-utterly unadulterated purest of hails exists

 

[Papa Lazarou]

I think it's a bad idea to discuss who would've won under what circumstances. Doesn't make any difference and is just going to piss people off.

 

[Doomicus]

sigh this is bs. Why are we even still talking about that?

I personally would rather fight this week against KoS. our last fight with them was actually fun, and I look forward to fighting them again. Did Knightmeister mention something a couple pages back about an invasion this week? or was that with SPLH?

All i have seen the last few pages is negativity from you and almost nothing productive.

It is up to RAWR whether they want a rematch. I am just going to say that alot of our players REALLY enjoyed the match we were having up until the rage quit. The only thing that was annoying was the round timer for some. After you quit a fair few players stayed back, maybe they enjoyed it too?

Just put it down as a practice and try again, maybe bring less players. Its really frustrating to see this kind of attitude from you Gerhart. Seriously just want to play some games.