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Night Ninja 说:
Yeah, well, he's Marshall. He's skinnier than Doom, I rather doubt that he'd be able to lift an empty barrel.

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apparently Doom is so fat he has so many double chins he looks like she is staring at you over a pile of pancakes.
 
When is the battle rescheduled for btw? i would very much like this battle to take place without the failure on both sides.

Personally, i dont like to speak against dojo, but i was ******** raging at the way they handled the lateness of KoS. There was no reason we couldnt have played that game what so over, but some people i find like to ***** about KoS and find ways to be dicks to them more than actually play the game, and it pisses me off. Sure theres animosity between the clans, but there was some serious immaturity on the dojo Mumble, and alot of childish bull****.

Next time, play the game, or be played without. Me and Kimbo would have led the remainder of dojo, and next time im pretty sure thats what im going to suggest. More than likely ill just get muted in Mumble though.

Still ******** bs, man up guys.

I mean whats the point in a "if they are 5 minutes late, they lose their hex" rule. Who honestly cares about hexes? its nice in the context of giving battles a small amount of meaning and seeing what you achieve, but honestly we are organising these battles because we want to fight. A free win is just **** for all parties as its none of the fun for all of the paperwork.
 
Please get off your soap box and address inter-clan issues in the appropriate place (the Dojo forums or take it up with the council).
 
Yahwade: I agree. No one was to blame for the fact that we were not ready on time, it was just circumstances that were out of our hands at the time. What I did want to address though was the fact that dooms post almost exclusively singles out KoS as being at fault. Not so. No one was to blame. I am just sick of all the hate thrown at each other because we are on different "sides".

As for the ACC1/Major Payne issue, he was banned because he broke GON server rules, and he was not unbanned when you asked because he has to follow proper GON procedure for unbanning people (i.e: submitting a ban appeal on games.on.net). This was stated many times by me and others. You have to remember that just because ACC1 is a clan member does not mean he is allowed to do whatever the heck he pleases with the admin powers he is given, and if someone were to provide evidence to any abuse he would certainly not remain in the position.

Scorch! 说:
Now, I agree to the next match time, Sunday 8pm (ON THE DOT). We will make it an expectation that everyone turns up 1 hour beforehand to avoid any of this unnecessary bull**** the second time around.
Time for the next match Gaiseec.
 
Mordaunt 说:
Please get off your soap box and address inter-clan issues in the appropriate place (the Dojo forums or take it up with the council).

i think its appropriate it for the oceanic community to understand that not all of dojo are girly men.
 
Scorch! 说:
Now, I agree to the next match time, Sunday 8pm (ON THE DOT). We will make it an expectation that everyone turns up 1 hour beforehand to avoid any of this unnecessary bull**** the second time around.

An hour might be a bit much as some of us have kids etc to look after etc. Plus, do we need to start ON THE DOT? No. As long as we are all in the same server at the "start" and we are communicating nicely, a slight delay in starting should be no problem.
 
Gaiseec 说:
Mordaunt 说:
Please get off your soap box and address inter-clan issues in the appropriate place (the Dojo forums or take it up with the council).

i think its appropriate it for the oceanic community to understand that not all of dojo are girly men.

Good to hear that there are some in Dojo who haven't lost their perspective. All this inter-clan wrangling does is to make the Oceanic community a laughingstock. Heck, you find less drama and antagonism in septic politics. As Midgard said, it was pretty much a case of miscommunication, though I'd like to add that it was coupled with oversensitivity for certain individuals. Falling down and skinning your knee doesn't mean that gravity has it out for you.

Yahwade, as Scorch has said, MajorPayne had to follow GoN procedures to get unbanned. I believe he understood that quite adequately, though he seems to have neglected to inform the rest of the clan. ACC1 isn't a private server's admin who can throw out bans for the lulz, he's got to follow the rules and guidelines laid down by the server hosts.
 
Yahwade 说:
Scorch! 说:
Doom, you say that we failed to turn up at 7pm. Wrong assumption there bucko. We had 15 people at 6:55pm. Then something came up for ACC1 and he had to leave. He came back at 7:30 and was all ready for the match, with us in the server with you guys waiting. You then proceeded to rage at us and say you didn't want to have the match, even though we were all there ready for it. A few seconds afterward, 2 of your players left and didn't come back.

I immediately offered to fight a 13v13 instead to make up for the two that left, and you declined, giving no reason as to why you would, then you come on here and say that you are happy to have a match and that we had "failures". Is 30 minutes really that much of a time frame that you couldn't still have your 15 players in the first place? Because that tells me that you need to find people who can be around for longer, what if the match had lasted that long?

BTW: 7pm onwards means 7pm onwards, not 7pm on the friggin dot. If you wanted it at exactly 7, you should have said so.

Now, I agree to the next match time, Sunday 8pm (ON THE DOT). We will make it an expectation that everyone turns up 1 hour beforehand to avoid any of this unnecessary bull**** the second time around.

Personally I dont care who was at "fault". I think that we Dojo/KoS need to stop the wrangling and just get on with it.

I believe the failure here is communication. Lack of it in this instance from KoS on what was happening. A simple "Hey guys, we are waiting on xyz, can we wait 20 minutes" would have been fine.

On our part, we probably have a instant knee-jerk reaction to anything KoS does and view it with the highest suspicion.

Things like the banning of Major Payne have left a sour taste and therefore alot of ill will. I personally politely requested that ACC unban MP, JUST FOR THE BATTLE, then reban him when we had finished...no go.

From a Dojo POV, this is ACC being a cork.

Anyway, the battles we have had, in the most part, been a heck of a lot of fun. Its just the homo wrangling that we BOTH need to cut out.

Yes it was a lack of communication from both sides. But we still all had the numbers to play but you guys didnt want to, we should have just done it then and there so we wouldnt be talking about it now.

The payne ban;
From my pov this was dojo being a bunch of cry babies.

Dojo all raged and cried more then payne did him self. And it had nothing to do with anyone but me and payne.. They all moaned and *****ed about it when it happened and that pretty much went on for the first week of his ban, Next time I will just kick out anyone who gets out of hand when it doesn't involve them.

I talked to payne alot in pm's to explain why it happened, as well as telling him how to appeal and get the ban removed.

Payne was reasonable to talk to. WE didnt ***** at each other, we traded opinions on a bunch of things, I told him how the rules worked with his ban and how he can avoid it.

I wont unban someone just because one of his fellow clan members asks me to.. It says nothing in the rules about giving special day passes. A ban is.. a ban.


Gaiseec 说:
When is the battle rescheduled for btw? i would very much like this battle to take place without the failure on both sides.

Personally, i dont like to speak against dojo, but i was ******** raging at the way they handled the lateness of KoS. There was no reason we couldnt have played that game what so over, but some people i find like to ***** about KoS and find ways to be dicks to them more than actually play the game, and it pisses me off. Sure theres animosity between the clans, but there was some serious immaturity on the dojo Mumble, and alot of childish bull****.

Next time, play the game, or be played without. Me and Kimbo would have led the remainder of dojo, and next time im pretty sure thats what im going to suggest. More than likely ill just get muted in Mumble though.

Still ******** bs, man up guys.

I mean whats the point in a "if they are 5 minutes late, they lose their hex" rule. Who honestly cares about hexes? its nice in the context of giving battles a small amount of meaning and seeing what you achieve, but honestly we are organising these battles because we want to fight. A free win is just **** for all parties as its none of the fun for all of the paperwork.

Gaiseec 说:
Mordaunt 说:
Please get off your soap box and address inter-clan issues in the appropriate place (the Dojo forums or take it up with the council).

i think its appropriate it for the oceanic community to understand that not all of dojo are girly men.

Props to you took for standing up and speaking out on it. I dunno why it didnt get played. So it wasn't the smoothest start to a match, but they usually never are.. We should have played, we said we would suit ur numbers and you guys all left.

If you want to contact us to get a war on etc come join our mumble any time to let us know.

Chuck this in ur mumble fav's so you can quickly switch over to organize something.
Look for the warband channel.

Server Name: games.on.net
Address: mumble-1.games.on.net
Port: 64738

 
TBH, there is no need for 99.99% your post ACC, you are just perpetuating the problem. Its this dickhead attitude that pisses people off.

Sod off.
 
Yahwade 说:
TBH, there is no need for 99.99% your post ACC, you are just perpetuating the problem. Its this dickhead attitude that pisses people off.

Sod off.

wade, you can post when you want but no one else can add an opinion from their pov.. typical.. Its this ****wit attitude that pisses others off.
 
ACC1 说:
Wade, I was just posting my opinion on how things went down, no different to you. It's that kind of smothering of other peoples opinions that creates this kind of drama in the first place.
See what I did there? Says the exact same thing, except without getting overly dramatic and insulting for no reason whatsoever.

A lot of people in this thread have been making an effort to talk things over peacefully, just because there's some folks on both sides who can't drop the drama whoring shouldn't get in the way of figuring out what happened, and how to make things run a little more smoothly in the future. Maybe everyone should just try being the bigger man if you think people are taking shots at you for a change?
 
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Moss 说:
ACC1 说:
Wade, I was just posting my opinion on how things went down, no different to you. It's that kind of smothering of other peoples opinions that creates this kind of drama in the first place.
See what I did there? Says the exact same thing, except without getting overly dramatic and insulting for no reason whatsoever.

A lot of people in this thread have been making an effort to talk things over peacefully, just because there's some folks on both sides who can't drop the drama whoring shouldn't get in the way of figuring out what happened, and how to make things run a little more smoothly in the future. Maybe everyone should just try being the bigger man if you think people are taking shots at you for a change?

I just wanted to do it the same way he did, so he can see what we read..

I realize how it comes across, Im just making sure they have a chance to read it the same way :wink:
 
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