[NW][M]Iron Europe - WWI Mod (RELEASED)

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joseph590

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wrath7 said:
wait do u mean that there wont be any kilted highlanders or slouch hat Australians... ever, if we choose no variety?

dont you think individuality to a regiment is somewhat important? Cant you just say that in the first release there wont be much "variety", but eventually in later updates you could work on the more detail oriented aspects like that
Uhh i think there is some confusion between the poll

Standard unit is one unit with a ton of variety ,Variety of different units is the NW thing,where we have the french foreign legion and the ANZAC,With less variety,maybe one or two unis,But standard unit will have alot more variety .hope that clears it up
 

Rigadoon

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wrath7 said:
wait do u mean that there wont be any kilted highlanders or slouch hat Australians... ever, if we choose no variety?
Like I said, people are always welcome to reskin it. If we decide to go that route, maybe even the dev team will create some skins.

dont you think individuality to a regiment is somewhat important?
To be honest, no not too much considering that most MP games don't even provide the option of choosing your unit. I do believe in individuality with every player though through slight changes of the standard uniform which is possible if we go with option #2.
 

Rigadoon

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joseph590 said:
wrath7 said:
wait do u mean that there wont be any kilted highlanders or slouch hat Australians... ever, if we choose no variety?

dont you think individuality to a regiment is somewhat important? Cant you just say that in the first release there wont be much "variety", but eventually in later updates you could work on the more detail oriented aspects like that
Uhh i think there is some confusion between the poll

Standard unit is one unit with a ton of variety ,Variety of different units is the NW thing,where we have the french foreign legion and the ANZAC,With less variety,maybe one or two unis,But standard unit will have alot more variety .hope that clears it up
...that's a very confusing way of explaining it because you use the same word to describe both options.

The standard unit option means that you can only use standard, normal uniforms. However there will be tons of randomization so that almost all players will have slightly different appearances. If you play N&S, you know that some regiments provide a bunch of uniforms and when you spawn the game selects a random one for you, that's what we mean.

The variety of units option allows you to choose what unit you want to be, meaning that for the French, you can choose if you want to be a standard soldier, foreign legionnaire, or chasseur.
 

Vincenzo

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Why even ask what the people want, its obvious you want to make standard soldiers with randomised equipment.

And to be fair, that is the best choice from a modders perspective and thus the good future of this mod.


Its the same as putting a poll up; Should we add spain as a faction in the expansion, i bet 95% will vote we should... but that doesen't mean anything, everyone wants more free stuff, same goes for your mod, you ask people if they want lots of difirent unique units to play, or one simple unit with some minor difirences...

Remove the poll, and do what is best for your mod.
 

TheTomdebomb

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I suggest having 1 unit but perhaps like the Germans can choose Pickelhaube or Stalhelm (sorry for spelling) you could have the options of having a slouch hat or Helmet? maybe in later releases though and if you wanted to go far you could perhaps have the option for people to choose pants or a kilt?
 

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Vincenzo said:
Why even ask what the people want, its obvious you want to make standard soldiers with randomised equipment.

And to be fair, that is the best choice from a modders perspective and thus the good future of this mod.


Its the same as putting a poll up; Should we add spain as a faction in the expansion, i bet 95% will vote we should... but that doesen't mean anything, everyone wants more free stuff, same goes for your mod, you ask people if they want lots of difirent unique units to play, or one simple unit with some minor difirences...

Remove the poll, and do what is best for your mod.
He has a very clear and good point here, alright.
 

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Faewulf said:
Vincenzo said:
Why even ask what the people want, its obvious you want to make standard soldiers with randomised equipment.

And to be fair, that is the best choice from a modders perspective and thus the good future of this mod.


Its the same as putting a poll up; Should we add spain as a faction in the expansion, i bet 95% will vote we should... but that doesen't mean anything, everyone wants more free stuff, same goes for your mod, you ask people if they want lots of difirent unique units to play, or one simple unit with some minor difirences...

Remove the poll, and do what is best for your mod.
He has a very clear and good point here, alright.
And, he's a demi-god..
 

pod455

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What about different units with a small handful of variety? it may take longer to release but i like the idea
Wouldnt that settle the debate?
 

McEwanMaster77

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For me, people running around in a crapload of different uniforms would ruin the feel for me. Like it was said, these battle would be company vs company at this scale, and the prescence of many distinct uniforms would destroy the atmospere, making it feel more like a cheap reenactment event than an actual battle. The standad unit would make the game feel much more centralized and authentic.
 

Cosmic_Nate

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I like varsity it adds flavor and spice as well as choice

Like imagine of evyone on be was playing the frei korps you would get bored of them and go landwher to be unique or just spice it up
 

Tareth

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pod455 said:
What about different units with a small handful of variety? it may take longer to release but i like the idea
Wouldnt that settle the debate?
+1

It would be so much better, really. :smile: Then you would have more individuality as people want. And if you start with one standard unit, you can later add more units with patches. Then we've got the best of both worlds!

Just make sure there is no machinegun spamming >:neutral:. If you have different units in-game, it's preventable, and that is why I voted for Variety of Units.
 

pod455

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I think the machinegunner should be a specialist, because in N&S there is officer spam with pistols and that ruined it for me.
 

McEwanMaster77

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Tareth said:
pod455 said:
What about different units with a small handful of variety? it may take longer to release but i like the idea
Wouldnt that settle the debate?
+1

It would be so much better, really. :smile: Then you would have more individuality as people want. And if you start with one standard unit, you can later add more units with patches. Then we've got the best of both worlds!
If we want to be unique, why not add in a ton of things like different buckles, straps, socks (putees!), insignias, cups, ammo pouches, etc. etc.? This would make people individualized, while keeping the overall feel centralized for the reasons I stated above. In future releases there could maybe even be a character editor. (Thoughts?)
 

wrath7

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Tareth said:
pod455 said:
What about different units with a small handful of variety? it may take longer to release but i like the idea
Wouldnt that settle the debate?
+1

It would be so much better, really. :smile: Then you would have more individuality as people want. And if you start with one standard unit, you can later add more units with patches. Then we've got the best of both worlds!

Just make sure there is no machinegun spamming >:neutral:. If you have different units in-game, it's preventable, and that is why I voted for Variety of Units.
This seems fine, but there would need to be some essential variations added, the the kilts that are iconic to certain regiments that are very popular. I suppose any class of soldier that fought on the western front would be fine to add as a choice. But if you take away variety you kind of take away the whole feeling of a "World War". the amazing thing about ww1 was that there were so many different factions that united under a single cause and there were so many different soldiers that fought together. People from all over the British Empire fought together on the western front, which would include mercenary units fro Africa, Australians, Canadians, Irishmen, etc. And the Germans were similar. So to take away variety would  defeat that element of diversity which was one of the few great things about the Great War, imo
 

Armistead

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first The map looks godd nice work with the NW props :smile:
Second I'd go for a mix of both options like if you take 2 units you can choose from like a unit wich is more basse don melee and a unit wich is more bassed on shooting and well ye the shooting class has slightly diffrent uniforms then the ones wich are bassed on melee
 

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Comrade Temuzu said:
Alright, I think Im done with this map for now. I can send it over anytime you want. Here are some pics of the finished product.

Uhm isn't that for the Zombie mod? :razz:
 

Temuzu

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Herpaderp. Yes it is. I think I had something else to say here, then mixed the messages. My bad. :lol:
 
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Most people want to identify themselves with different units.
That´s why regiments are existing. A bunch of people fights as the same unit and tries to be the very best.

In NW for example I really enjoy being leader of the nummero 59 regiments, since we have our own skin we can indentify ourselves with our own unit.
It would be exactly the same thing in your mod. The people should be able to play as some of maybe their forefathers regiments. It wouldn´t just make proud, no, I would say in games like these it is also a patriotic matter. Sadly such matters could also be dangerous but if everyone behaves this mod would be awesome.

For example: I can´t wait until austria-hungary is added since I would really like to play as on of the "soldiers of the emperor" (*cough add *cough *cough the Nummero 59 *cough *cough) Everyone should be able to do this. And if someone really would like to see one of his favourite regiments ingame but I won´t be added by the creator they will surely create a skin... That would be hard or maybe even impossible you choose the other option in your poll.

I hope to see some nice regiments....... (Freedom of Speech, hurraay)
 

chargerz43

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[*]Make standard uniforms with minor variations
[*]Promote re-skinning by those who want to look like something specific
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