Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
You are all too easily abusive.
When you make flighty claims based on nothing while also making snide remarks, people tend to react negatively. You're the one who started this bull****, don't start whining about it if you can't take it.
Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
Also wrong in your criticism. It's dull to waste time on this, but hopefully you can see the error of your ways.
As always, nothing of actual substance to back up your ridiculous claims so better start the waahbulance and cry out.
Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
I stand by both statements and they are consistent with each other. No goalposts moved anywhere.
Liar.
"He's about to force the Americans to the negotiating table on his terms" is certainly not the same thing as
"He won't be "dictating terms". You literally said in your first post that he will be dictating the terms. That what it means when someone has to negotiate on YOUR TERMS. You are thus dictating them. Basic logic 101 here. You realised your first flippant statement to have been ridiculous, so you moved the goal posts and made a different claim. Now you're being scummy and lying about it.
Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
You tried to insert your strawman phrase "dictating terms" to attack it more easily, because you are very naughty.
This is what I love about you spineless weasels. I used your own words and direct quotes, yet you cry about strawmans. How stupid do you think I am? This is such stupid, easily caught lying.
Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
I'm sure you can at least try to understand that Kim used his nukes escalation to both bring the Americans to negotiate and improved his negotiating position.
No he doesn't. The nukes are a deterrent to prevent an invasion that North-Korean conventional military would be unable to stop.
Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
Calling people crazy, then making an argument is very, very naughty.
Again with the lies. I did not say you were crazy, I stated that your claims were crazy. But I'm not surprised that you're lying about that too. So many lies in such a short time, no wonder you're tripping up on them.
Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
You are saying that NK has nothing to offer in negotiations. This is clearly wrong and I'm saddened by this failure of imagination and knowledge.
You haven't actually shown WHAT DPRK could offer at the negotiation table. Which they haven't even proposed, by the way. You claim that DPRK is doing all this to get a stronger hand at a negotiating table that they usually refuse to enter in the first place and the few times they actually have entered, they have never budged on anything. But in your fantasy la-la-land, facts don't matter, I guess.
Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
There are plenty of options here and hopefully an eventual deal would be struck. Now, please apologize and admit you didn't think this through.
As I said earlier, Iran had something worthwhile to negotiate over. Similarly, the disarmament talks between US and USSR were possible because both countries benefited from it somewhat equally. By comparison, DPRK will never dismantle its nuclear program, that much is obvious to everyone, yet at the same time it is the only thing worth negotiating about. ROK and USA will not stop their military exercises, nor will ROK stop the missile defence program. Finally, DPRK has zero credibility because they have broken previous treaties numerous times. You might want to brush up on your history:
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron
But I'm actually curious. What sort of deal you think could be made?
Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
Maybe now you actually did, but your first two responses certainly ignored most of my post. Not to mention your question. So, you were wilfully ignoring elements of that post, then? I'm not surprised.
Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
The greatest part of it is a military fantasy because KILOTONS WILL KILL YOU A LOT
Funnily enough, in a thread titled "Nukes, nukes, nukes", where discussion has primarily focused on facts about nuclear weapons and their effects, the majority of my post was explaining the DPRK nuclear capabilities. Funny that you attack me on staying on topic while you're doing your best to derail it into some wishy-washy utopistic nonsense.
Rodrigo Ribaldo said:
with a short part saying that diplomacy is the only option, but Kim is CRAZY and NOTHING CAN REALLY BE DONE. It's literally hysterical, much like the popular media stories following the escalation. You should be ashamed of baseless alarmism and acknowledge your pro-military bias.
Again, if Kim were as rational as you claim he is, he could have taken a page from the Chinese playbook. Or the Cuban playbook. Funny how those countries have managed to keep their leadership structures largely intact while also improving the lot in life of their citizens. Diplomacy is the only sane option but it is very unlikely to achieve any sort of permanent solution that would satisfy everyone. ROK has been bribing DPRK for years - didn't help.
You should really stare into a mirror - you're the one who has repeatedly made baseless claims, lied about what you said, and accused me of all sorts of things.
Calradianın Bilgesi said:
I don't understand why Kim is a madman. Crushing opposition and oppressing your own people are nowhere close to being signs of madness.
Shades of grey. Erdogan is not isolating Turkey from the rest of the world despite crushing opposition and oppressing his own people. Just to make one example.