New NA Tournament Feedback/Interest Sourcing (dw i'm not admin)

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Posting for a contact I know who was pretty much the only person breathing life into WFAS a few months ago.

There's pretty serious interest in running a few weekend long tournament with a fairly large prize pool (~400+ USD afaik) possibly winner take all style, but the sponsor organizer dude wants there to be hype. Like he's talking bringing back the big boys like Rhade and Mad Dawg. He wants BkS vs Balion vs TMW vs wK finals stuff. Figured this was the most relevant place to see if that interest existed.

So, everyone who considers themselves relevant in the community (i.e. not random eu players who don't play with or follow us), he's looking for feedback. The more people the better!!!


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[b]How many teams you think this guy can get?[/b]

[b]Who from the community should he look to for admins to keep it relevant considering he's not the most knowledgeable about the native scene?[/b]

[b]About what time should this stuff start up/how long can we keep up the hype and tournament?[/b]

[b]Streaming is pretty important to this idea, so any thoughts on how to set it up?[/b]

[b]Any other things to take into consideration? (map pools? duels? UNAC rules? formats? strats on getting bks to play?)[/b]


My answers:
How many teams you think this guy can get?
Considering last UNAC had 12, and without extra incentive I'd say you're losing TMW and Balion and possibly wK, and since I consider the extra money probably not being enough to bring back any old clans, I'd say he should shoot for 12. He'd love for 16, and thinks he can get some teams from NW and WFAS, but I have learned not to rely on players from those games personally.

Who from the community should he look to for admins to keep it relevant considering he's not the most knowledgeable about the native scene?
Arys is the only admin from the most recent UNAC worth his salt imo. While many of you did not see it, all the UNAC S4 admins can attest to some bull**** and lack of actually caring about the tournament from most of their number that was obvious from a long PM chain that attempted to fix the attitude and issues with the last UNAC. Granted I'm biased because I like Arys and he's in my clan, but I seriously doubt you'd find someone who will actually do things and cares more than him, at least as of a month ago. Now I'm not so sure. No one else stands out from the most recent season of UNAC and I can't realistically seeing someone like Marnid return. I also can't think of anyone else not an admin or recent admin who's responsible or caring enough to be a worthwhile admin, but I haven't played on POM in a bit, so I'm probably least knowledgeable here.

About what time should this stuff start up/how long can we keep up the hype and tournament?
As soon as possible and as short as possible. He's looking for one round per weekend. I think you can do 3 or 4 weekends tops. I've always been pushing for shorter tournament lengths anyway. I think saying "your game is saturday at this time, if you win, you play again an hour later, if you win again you play next week, if you lose you're out" is much better than saying "go schedule with John."

Streaming is pretty important to this idea and the sponsor organizer thingy dude, so any thoughts on how to set it up?
One stream, two casters, one camera. Anyone who wants to cast can do a tryout and we'll run pickup parties for them to cast. They cast one map then someone else tries out. Best casters get picked (either by community vote or by tournament organizer) and they actually practice together, maybe watch another eSport for the first time in their lives, and actually put some effort into creating hype and worthwhile commentary. Someone updates the ******** streamer module with the correct minimaps.

Any other things to take into consideration? (map pools? duels? UNAC rules? formats? strats on getting bks to play?)
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Can serious EU teams (the kind of team you'd want in your tournament for the hype) also participate?
 
I don't speak for wK as a whole however..

More than half of our clan is done,  I think BkS is done, I've heard most of TMW is done.

This seems like a stretch. I won't be installing Warband ever again for competitive play. Money won't change that.

Eat your heart out though :eek:


 
Not gonna happen, top tier teams are done.
It also seems that many other clans are starting to shift away from mnb right now too, there are however many new clans that have popped up within the past month or so.
But as you said, you want the big boys, not the small ones, and the big boys all recently graduated.
Either way I wish you good luck on you and your friend's endeavors.
 
KURWA and some elements of TMW would play, BkS are the best people to ask if you want BkS back. Your friend might be better off turning his attention to the European Scene though. I'd hate him to risk putting any money in the hands of the likes of the kids in tK and CM.
 
This the same guy who hosted that wfas tourney we entered x? Interesting. But really, money and a prize pool aren't the issue. The main issue here is no one caring enough. At least not the right people for what you're asking.
 
Hey man, I'm glad you're interested in helping out the NA community.

How many teams you think this guy can get?

Active teams in the NA scene:
Cashmere
T R U E S A D B O Y S
Wappaw
Golden Kingdom
Lords of Calradia
Akaria
Praetorians of Neapolis
Rebels
Brothers of Valor
Defenders of Faith

In-active NA teams:
The Midnight Watchmen
Balion
Honor Bound
West Knights
Black Shields
Kingdom of Avalon

I'd say you'd be able to get 12 teams. However, if you're able to get one of those top-tier inactive teams back like BkS, it could change everything. I'll just say this however, money and prizes isn't the issue with our scene. UNAC S4 had the largest prize pool of all the North American tournaments, and the hype for it was big at the start but died down towards the end of the tournament. If you want another big tournament, you're going to need competition, not money.

About what time should this stuff start up/how long can we keep up the hype and tournament?

By what time, I'm assuming you mean when? I'll say you should probably start the tournament as soon as possible, before more teams drop. Theirs also some sort of tension building amongst some teams right now, so the sooner the better. As for the length of the tournament, the best length to go by to keep hype and **** would be around 6-7 weeks.

Streaming is pretty important to this idea, so any thoughts on how to set it up?

Luckily for you, their are plenty of streamers in the warband scene, whom you can ask to help you out. Some names are, Tito, Darin, Deafening, you could even ask some EU streamers like Captain Lust or Volcom.

Any other things to take into consideration? (map pools? duels? UNAC rules? formats? strats on getting bks to play?)

I actually do have one advice, use the swiss-system or a hybrid of it! It'll make your tournament much better.
 
I agree with Arys.

I'm pretty sure DoF would always be up for UNAC, unless some crazy circumstances prevents us from wanting to participate.
 
What will it take to get all four power clans back together for one last tournament with their full original roster? $800+? 1k? Or is money really not the thing here.
 
The Magician 说:
What will it take to get all four power clans back together for one last tournament with their full original roster? $800+? 1k? Or is money really not the thing here.

Arys 说:
If you want another big tournament, you're going to need competition, not money.
 
Well... If we're talking a $1000 then I think that we're talking about competition-creating money. TMW just became a whole lot more interested. xDDD
 
I'm interested in doing it, but I want those four power clans with their best rosters.  I'm still waiting to hear back from the 4 clans.
 
I'm sure you can get all the top clans together to play again with their strongest rosters.

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