New Germanic/Dacian objects

[AlphaDelta]

6 more Dacian bodies added to post 1, bringing the total up to 24 

 

[Merlkir]

Any chance of some new nice Dacian helmets I've linked to way back?

I believe they used Phrygian helmets, some Thracian helmets, some sarmatian helmets and most likely, a few simple celtic helmets. According to the osprey book about the Dacians, they rarely wore helmets anyway, most likely only the nobles would have worn them. The Phrygian cap would be a good choice for some units, but I think as it is in the game, it's too big.

I meant these:

 

[ealabor]

We're trying to pin down the factions armors and shield right now, then I'll maybe take a look at some helmet adjustments and make new models.

I've got to rework the current mappings as it is, though I would like to add some unique Scythian and Sarmatian elements.... And then have AD texture them for us of course 

 

[AlphaDelta]

6 new Germanic tunics/armours on page 1 Germans are done now except for the youth warriors.

 

[SPQR]

Awesome job. 

 

[AlphaDelta]

Awesome job. 

Thanks

 

[klazd]

I am amazed by the awesomenes that shines from this mod

 

[AlphaDelta]

4 more bodies add. germans are now finished.

 

[AlphaDelta]

Someone mentioned that there was never any studded armour. I found these 2 pictures that although aren't proof, they do show a possible style of armour.

Cheers

 

[jamoecw]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigandine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_plates

so they aren't "studded leather" exactly, just leather over plates, using rivets to hold them into place.

 

[Almalexia]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigandine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_plates

so they aren't "studded leather" exactly, just leather over plates, using rivets to hold them into place.

Ah. So, we have now moved from it's actual existence to a technicality. I see.

 

[AlphaDelta]

I have updated the studded armours to be closer to the source. Even if it is somewhat fantastical it's atleast less glaringly wrong.

 

[Almalexia]

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

Sorry, but my dissapointment is palpable. Those were so farking awesome!

 

[NorthSverige]

Wow, those look fantastic, yet I'm wondering why are there loin clothes?  I mean are they just a substitute for being nude or something.  Or is there some evidence of this?  Because in my opinion a nearly naked man in Germania is just crazy.  Everything looks nice though, the shields are great.  Also, I don't think they'd be going into battle with cloaks in my opinion, but you should keep them they're amazing.

 

[AlphaDelta]

Wow, those look fantastic, yet I'm wondering why are there loin clothes?  I mean are they just a substitute for being nude or something.  Or is there some evidence of this?  Because in my opinion a nearly naked man in Germania is just crazy.  Everything looks nice though, the shields are great.  Also, I don't think they'd be going into battle with cloaks in my opinion, but you should keep them they're amazing.

No cloaks or loin cloths?

Germanic people still go out nearly naked, ever been to the north of England on a friday night?

 

[NorthSverige]

Yes well, like I said I like the cloaks.  However those pictures look like their off a model kit which are definitely not entirely accurate.  And if you are trying to go for the nearly naked look, the loin clothes are great, I would rather see that than hundreds of nude men.  Yet I still find no reference to loin clothes anywhere. 
And no I haven't been to England, thanks for the warning. 

 

[AlphaDelta]

The pictures are from an Osprey book. It's not suprising that it's hard to find historical references to underwear. Nevertheless it's a logical look for the the Jugunthiz.

Cheers

 

[NorthSverige]

Odd, I own that book.

 

[jamoecw]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigandine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_plates

so they aren't "studded leather" exactly, just leather over plates, using rivets to hold them into place.

Ah. So, we have now moved from it's actual existence to a technicality. I see.

there isn't any science to back up studded leather, never would exist if it only hurt the wearer worse.

 

[Elmetiacos]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigandine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_plates

so they aren't "studded leather" exactly, just leather over plates, using rivets to hold them into place.

Ah. So, we have now moved from it's actual existence to a technicality. I see.

"Studded Leather" is a Victorian mistake which has survived into modern times largely thanks to Dungeons & Dragons. In mediaeval illustrations, soldiers are seen wearing what appeared to be leather armour with studs set into it. For armour, simply putting studs into leather is pointless: the studs only have any effect if struck squarely by an edged weapon (unlikely) and if struck by a blunt weapon, would focus the force of the blow and make the wound worse. What was interpreted as studded leather is indeed either a Wisby-style coat of plates or brigandine - strips of metal rivetted between two layers of leather. There was also a ceremonial coat of nails in India, but it was purely decorative.