Neretzes benefits?

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Doofus

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Soooo...has anyone found any actual benefit to doing the Neretzes folly quest? I mean, people will say it gives you the ability to start your own kingdom earlier, but it really doesn't. If you are able to start your own kingdom at level 3, then really the quest isn't giving you the ability to...its giving you permission to. Looked at another way, its unfair of Taleworlds to WITHOLD permission to start your own kingdom to clan level 4 if you don't do the quest. So what other benefit is there?

You get lots of disincentives to do the quest...it gives you lots of meaningless side quests to do when you are busy at war, trying to make babies, or trying to recruit other lords. Eventually it gives you lots of enemies attacking you at once to make it almost impossible to win.

But what benefit does it give you? I feel like if this is the main quest and you give the banner to another ruler you should gain heaps of influence and good relations with that ruler and possibly with his subject lords...but you don't.

I feel if you keep it for yourself there should be lots of lords flocking to your banner to follow the true righteous leader...but you don't.

Why does TW make this the main quest, but give you no benefits for completing it? What am I missing here?
 
For one to start your own kingdom you have to own a settlement and have clan level at 2 or 3. At least that's how it works in Sandbox mode, I haven't played the Campaign in a while.

I believe the benefits will come with the banner beares feature that was mentioned in Future plans from TW. Considering they even mention the normal banners will include "gameplay effects for the soldiers marching under each banner". We can assume the dragon banner should in the future give some very good buffs, maybe they will OP, but we'll have to wait and see. Not to mention we will be (hopefully) able to see it on battlefields in all its glory.
 

Joe Friday

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I was about to start my own kingdom until that bastard King Derthert died from disease. I was then voted in by the council to take his place as High King of Vlandia. My plan was to give myself the banner then but I don't think that's an option. If so then please tell me how to give myself the banner if I took over a kingdom.
 
I think you need to be clan rank 4 to make kingdom no matter what. You can be any rank to swat n squat a fief (or many) though you'll likely pop up to rank 2 in the process. I not going to do the horrible quest to double check what is says, so if someone in the current version can cap the quest saying you only need rank 2 or 3, go ahead.

You get lots of disincentives to do the quest...it gives you lots of meaningless side quests to do when you are busy at war, trying to make babies, or trying to recruit other lords.
Yeah it's all bad and does nothing beneficial . The should revise it to be a optional quest line that guides the player in making a faction in a productive way but doesn't do any extra bull**** like conspiracy stuff. They should also add more options and events and content for when you're a ruler, that's the same for if you started campaign or sandbox and regardless of how you became ruler. If they want to have some late game threat like a conspiracy of other factions to unite against you, that might be interesting, but it should be for all player factions when the criteria (such as a certain power level) is met.

I was about to start my own kingdom until that bastard King Derthert died from disease. I was then voted in by the council to take his place as High King of Vlandia. My plan was to give myself the banner then but I don't think that's an option. If so then please tell me how to give myself the banner if I took over a kingdom.
I don't think TW has planned for this contingency, IOW you can't do it. I'm also not sure how it works out if you give the ruler the banner and then they die and you become the ruler. I ASSUME you could give up ruling, leave the faction and then talk to the NPCs to progress the quest, but I haven't done it. You could also just leave and make you own faction and ignore the quest.
 
I'm still waiting for the Dragon Banner ..

Once you get in, it's impossible to get out. Soon you'll be at Forever war with a few kingdoms.

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